• blobjim [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    That's not because of some virtuous thing about those countries, it's just a byproduct of their development that the USSR would have gone through as well as someone else pointed out (Russia went from having a monarch to socialist very quickly), like the GDR was doing. And it isn't like the colonies these countries maintained were or are "LGBTQ-friendly". I think Western European countries were stable and people could actually push for improved social relations because they weren't as focused on just surviving (as the people those countries subjugate around the world are). It's kind of hard to create advocacy groups and stuff when you're trying to get enough to eat.

    For example, most socialist or socialist led states today are non-discriminatory agaisnt LGBT people and it seems like people are generally accepted, with the exception of maybe the DPRK since we don't really know much about stuff there but I haven't heard anything explicitly bad in terms of policies. But the DPRK is also the least developed and probably the most focused on improving immediate material conditions. I think you're basically asking for people to change their entire cultural outlook on something they probably don't even think about that often in the first place, while they're still just trying to get by like anyone else. We are all the most focused on issues that affect ourselves, basically.

    It just seems weird that you would basiclally decry all support for the USSR among old people who lived in it as being for reactionary reasons, then say that the USSR "stans" bother you, and that European countries were actually better in some respects. That just seems like a weird characterization of the whole thing.