This is not the way to do it.

I will post something which isn't enough (as it isn't the survivors perspective and established memory culture and narrative about the Shoa, the Porajmos and alike.

This is just to underline what the goals and function were of the camps, the camps weren't there to "keep the prisoners disciplined to that different groups wouldn't kill each other" (as is more or less unaware claimed in the other post):

Die nationalsozialistischen Lager, deren einziger Zweck die Disziplinierung, Ausbeutung und Vernichtung von Menschen war, waren bei der Beseitigung von Regimegegnern/Regimegegnerinnen und der Umsetzung der Rassenpolitik von großer Bedeutung (vgl. Benz 2005:12). Schon im ersten Jahr nach der Machtübernahme der Nationalsozialisten/Nationalsozialistinnen im Jahr 1933 entstanden rund 70 frühe Konzentrationslager und 30 „Schutzhaftabteilungen“ in Justiz- und Polizeigefängnissen (vgl. Königseder 2005:30).

The nazi camps whose only goal was to disciplination to exploit and finally exterminate humans, were at the destruction of regime enemies and within the racial politics and implementations of racial politics a significant contribution.

Already within the first year after the takeower within the year 1933 the Nazis created 70 early concentration camps [remember there later would be extermination camps - majority of those in occupied eastern regions] and 30 "Schutzhaftabteilungen" [basically camps for political prisoner in parts without trial or when their sentence was done, also used for torture and murder] within police- and court-jails.

    • JuneFall [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      "Lets hold Nazis accountable by buying their merch and pushing their memoires" (which already for decades are exposed as political vehicle of Höss).

      "Lets ignore the survivors!"

      Edit: Sorry about the earlier typo, both Hess and Höss were Nazis who published memoires to wash themselves clean, both are perspectives you don't need spread like shit here

      • aerides [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        first of all it is absolutely hilarious that you are SO mad you confused Rudolf Hess and Rudolf Höss, like you were just waiting for someone to mention nazis so you could go on this rant

        (which already for decades are exposed as political vehicle of Höss).

        he was hanged by the Polish in 1947. where exactly is his political vehicle meant to take him?

        • JuneFall [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Also copied from a short scientific thesis:

          Am 25. Mai 1946 wurde Höß an die polnischen Behörden ausgeliefert, wo er die Monate bis zu seinem Prozess in Untersuchungshaft verbrachte und seine Erinnerungen niederschrieb. Während seiner Haft in Polen fand er zu seinem Glauben zurück und trat Anfang 1947 wieder der Römisch Katholischen Kirche bei (vgl. Orth 2004:282f.). Der Prozess gegen Rudolf Höß wurde am 11. März 1947 aufgenommen und endete am 2. April 1947 mit der Verkündung des Todesurteils für den ehemaligen Kommandanten des Konzentrationslagers Auschwitz

          Höss started writing on 25th of Mai 1946, after having been given to polish authorities, he used the month till his process to write down his memories [earlier it was said that the memoires served the goal of argumentative justify deeds, not seldom with goal to gain legal and moral absolution]. Within his imprisonment...he joined the catholic church.

          • aerides [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            I'm not sure what your point is. The dude was not absolved, he was hanged, and everyone here thinks he was a loser Nazi. It's useful to see what his justifications were.

        • JuneFall [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          Nice Anti-antifa work. Maybe because the Shoa isn't some abstract thing for me? Maybe cause every year a Hess "memorial march" by some thousand of Neonazis happens in my city, those Neonazis who killed friends or acquaintances of mine? Those Neonazis who have ideological education and try to push Nazi propaganda like - "the camps weren't bad, there was violence but only cause the other r*ces were attacking each other" (with references to Höss memoires).

          This is not an abstract discussion for me, but very integral to the way to deal with contemporary fascist organization. Furthermore I underlined again and again how you ought to take the survivor and oppressed position, if you can't do that then you aren't a comrade - at all.

      • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        his name was Höss and if you want to completely ignore all perpetrator confessions then you might as well be claiming that all POW testimony was coerced with commie torture like the deniers do