I'm sure Xi is beyond having his feelings hurt by Biden, but just look at Bilken's reaction lmao.

Inviting a head of state to your country to publicly insult them is unacceptable anywhere, so this is only going to further tarnish the shitty reputation of American diplomacy.

  • egg1918 [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Really think they're fucking up by reopening the military communications link. I guess China has to to show they're the reasonable party, but the US is just going to do what they were already doing. That is, ratcheting up tensions as much as possible whenever it suits them (pelosi fucking off to Taiwan for personal gain, that whole weather balloon embarrassment) then privately calling the PLA to say don't worry bro it's no biggie we promise. And then a month later doing it all again. I just don't see what China has to gain apart from the initial PR boost.

    • Yiazmat@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      that whole weather balloon embarrassment

      speaking of that, even though the US has openly admitted that the balloon wasn't a surveillance device and didn't collect any data, just yesterday my local news station was still calling it a "spy balloon" lol

      • Water Bowl Slime@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        Yeah I've noticed that here too. It seems like the final stage of disinfo is for people to repeat the lie on their own without any outside influence. It's the same deal with the Uyghur thing - official government sources dropped the narrative ages ago, but you'll still hear it repeated as if it were historical fact from journalists, influencers, redditors, etc.

          • egg1918 [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            I couldn't agree more with that second paragraph. I think you'll enjoy this article very much https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/. All this propaganda just gives the settlers a veil to spew their hate from behind. Chuds don't really need it because they're chuds, but it gives the liberals an excuse to be just as disgusting - only they'll dress it up in smug, condescending language.

          • Water Bowl Slime@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            Ya I don't think libs are brainwashed either. I read that red sails essay too and I agree with it but idk what better word there is to describe this. Bigotry permit? Hate pass?

              • Water Bowl Slime@lemmygrad.ml
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                1 year ago

                I can't see it catching on. I mean, have you ever seen anyone here use the term (other than to define it)?

                "The US is running a licensing campaign against Russia."

                "These people have all been licensed."

                "Dude shut it with the Uyghur shit, you're super licensed."

                It just doesn't fit right in anything other than an academic context.

                • alicirce@lemmygrad.ml
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                  1 year ago

                  Accusing someone of being "brainwashed" isn't, as far as I have seen, so rhetorically effective that I think we need a drop-in replacement like "hate-passed." If "you're super licensed" sounds silly it's because "you're super brainwashed" is also silly.

                  What about:

                  "Do you actually believe that nonsense or does it just give you license to discount the incredible social progress China has made?"

                  I think the post earlier in this thread used it well. They're not defining the term, they're explaining the phenomenon. Because it uses a familiar term, it is easy to understand and doesn't read jargony:

                  I think this is better understood as licensing American settlers to unleash their preexisting white supremacist worldview onto a politically acceptable target.

                  Rejecting the term "brainwashing" means not only improving our understanding of how propaganda works but also improving our rhetoric.

                  • Water Bowl Slime@lemmygrad.ml
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                    1 year ago

                    People call each other brainwashed all the time though? I've heard people say another person is "so/super/incredibly brainwashed" irl. It gets the message across pretty well I think

                    I'll admit licensing does sound natural in those sentences but I guess I just want a pithier way of saying something similar. It still comes off as academic, like someone saying "contradiction" instead of disagreement.

          • Hohsia [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Fuuuuuck I wish vonnegut lived to see this era of politics

            We would’ve without a doubt gotten some bangers

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Even the articles that came out confirming it was just a weather balloon referred to it as a "spy balloon" lmao.

      • NewAcctWhoDis [any]
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        1 year ago

        If I remember the articles correctly, they never denied it being a surveillance device, just that it transmitted (collected?) any data. So the running media story was "spy balloon that wasn't actively spying". That raises the question of "why?", but libs never seemed to bother with that one.