Edit- y’all are getting salty. Clearly I agree with Lenin that revolutionaries should work in reactionary parliaments. But that is not the same as the DSA who think electoralism is the key to meaningful change, and not a combination of legal and illegal strategies.

  • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    A meme is a meme, i dont expect it to provide in depth critique of the function of the DSA and the person's outlook on whether or not organizing around and inside it is the correct way forwards. If thats where they are coming from its simplistic and infamatory to channel your opinions on the subject in a gotcha meme format. Unless you drop the 10 paragraph leftist meme format you are basicaly begging to be interpreted as " DSA does nothing , nothing correct ,arent allies and sucks ass lmao "

    In general maybe im projecting my own critiques to this and OP doesnt have any nuanced critique on the matter but dismissing the DSA as the main vehicle for struggle and radicalization towards socialism in america, thinking that its general approach and structure has a very low ceiling of results it can bring and revolutionary progress it can make is a position that i think is legit from a leftist perspective, even if its simplisticaly and secreterian-y presented in the meme. Its normal these dumb internet enviroments for some comrade that may have these critiques and nuanced "anti-dsa" stance if you ask them to elaborate to present them in this negative and surface level antagonistsic way .

    Its doesnt and shouldnt mean a dismissal to all things the dsa does, hell not even most of their local work and neither a dismissal for the comrades that organize there. Doing that is ultra leftism i agree. But the original position about the dsa can exist without these ultra leftiss and i wouldnt call any comrade that holds this opinion an armchair larper shit on him cause "DSA big left org in america" and comparisons that dont hold water. Tho the way OP chose to post his brainworms on the subject doesnt leave much room for good faith discussion

    These opinions and discussions shouldnt be posted and be had in meme posts and presented in their most simplistic , and thats the OPs fault. I'd probably agree with their position on how and why the dsa isnt the viable org for the american left going forward unless its reformed in structure and approach