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  • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I think the ship has already sailed on any kind of two-state solution. A one-state solution with full enfrachisement and reparations for Palestinians seems like the only way forward.

    But that won't happen until Israel loses its favored client status with the U.S., and that won't happen until the U.S.'s ability to project force abroad is severely diminished or restricted.

    Basically I'm saying :amerikkka:

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      But that won’t happen until Israel loses its favored client status with the U.S., and that won’t happen until the U.S.'s ability to project force abroad is severely diminished or restricted.

      I don't think it'll happen with this either. Everything is so engrained in the Israelis now that you won't get them out of their behaviour and attitudes until 3-4 generations have passed. Everyone alive currently will not let a 1 state solution with full enfranchisement happen.

      • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Not of their own volition, no. But if the U.S. loses its ability to militarily sponsor Israel, I imagine the countries that still have bones to pick with Isreal will lean on it using its treatment of Palestinians as leverage. Whether that could happen in the next few decades or not for a couple centuries, depends on how fast the U.S empire collapses.

        China and Iran are two other big X-factors, I think. In a post-U.S. hegemonic world, whether they decide to take a harsher stance against Israel or not will play a big role. If they do, I think Israel may be forced to go the way of South Africa just to stay viable as a state.

      • spectre [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        you won’t get them out of their behaviour and attitudes until 3-4 generations have passed.

        This might be true, but that's probably the minimum amount of time (~100 years) that undoing this would take anyway, so the sooner it begins, the better. Maybe somewhere along the way (say 25-50 years after the US stops unconditionally backing Israel) another solution presents itself.