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  • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    One user put it plainly that, unlike in the US and other parts of Europe, second wave feminism actually took hold and gained a moderate amout of political power in its heyday in the UK, and the culture started to reflect this. Unfortunately, that also helped to cement it too firmly in the cultural zeitgeist to the point that there was less of an urge to analyse third-wave feminism and beyond, by basically enshrining this overly dogmatic, biologically deterministic, and somewhat mystical ideal of "womanhood" into law in several generations of britons, and ciswomen in particular.

    So when later feminist theory starts to contradict this, they get all up in arms and start crying wolf, co-opting the language of the oppressed to become oppressors themselves. The entire shitshow over restrooms, and changing rooms is framed as laws that hate women and children and want to make it easier for women to be assaulted, formal recognition of transwomen will mean that jailed women will be more subject to sexual assault, and so forth. Crucially, this lack of general adoption of later feminist theory, of course, gives rise to the usual spat of reactionary, carcerial feminism, manifesting in its usual forms as the liberalism we so love to hate; more women CEOs, more women imperialists, harsher carceral punishments for sex offenders (who would include transfolk in this category, of course), and stricter control of medication. As far as they're concerned, you can be gay or lesbian, and you can enjoy cross-dressing; those are your options, and if you don't like it, fuck you.

    To top it off, transphobes have their own website for organizing their wretched ideology amongst themselves on mumsnet, which is basically strormfront for transphobes ostensibly playing the role of a parenting support forum. It's fucked.

    • duderium [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This is interesting, but why did second wave feminism take hold in the UK and prevent the third wave from doing its thing? Why did the third wave have a relatively easier time in the USA?

      • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        This is just a personal theory, so take the requisite pinch of salt, but the UK did have a stronger Labour presence in the 20th century postwar, and was backed by the power of trade unions. The key difference in how it's worked thus far in the UK vs the US, is that in the UK, demands are set by trade unions, which are then fed directly to the party (or used to be before nu-Labour), which once in power can simply codify it into law. In the US, progressive laws are only made as a compromise after years and years of protesting, legal litigation, and callous, deliberate ignorance by the part of the ruling class who eventually might give in to pressure once the culture has overall normalized it too late. As for why it seemingly never progressed past second wave feminism, I cannot say. Complacency, or the lack of an effective union backing for demands after the Thatcher years destroyed what little remained of the SocialDemocratic Labour party of the 70s into the technocratic neoliberal monster it is today.