I feel about Bin Laden the same way I do about Ted Kaczinsky (sp?): might have some very good points but also really bad ones and neither strike me as particularly good people. America may have deserved 9/11 but for me that doesn’t translate to any support - even critical support - for Bin Laden.
Bin Laden's biggest mistake was not doing sequels. People love a connected universe. Imagine if we got a new 9/11 as frequently as we got a new mcu product.
He was that crazy, highly intelligent, but very odd uncle we all have or wish we had. A kindhearted outdoorsman with a real go-getter attitude towards hands-on education.
It's kinda interesting how the FBI had no fucking clue who the Unabomber was and he only got caught because he published his manifesto and his brother+sister in law recognized his crazy rambling and reported it. If he hadn't insisted on being so public with his message and his brother wasn't a snitch who knows.
He was that crazy, highly intelligent, but very odd uncle we all have or wish we had. A kindhearted outdoorsman with a real go-getter attitude towards hands-on education.
Ok, I know it's the internet and text, but was the joke not clear here?
Like if I wrote "Hitler gets a lot of shit, but I always remember he was just a traditionalist who liked lederhosen and German shepherds" I hope people would understand it's not serious.
"Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives"
Remind you again of someone, in fact, someone used his ideology for mass shooting (Anders Breivik)
Also, we support critically actually-existing socialist countries, to which he later says something on how we exaggerate the faults and assault of the Western world upon the third world while, at best, begrudgingly acknowledging our faults, which is self-projection, considering the right wingers have consistently whined about 100 million dead nowadays
In fact, one of his ideology's core tenet is full-out anti-leftism and he talks in great length about its threat to this ideology
"To avoid this, a movement that exalts nature and opposes technology must take a resolutely anti-leftist stance and must avoid all collaboration with leftists. Leftism is in the long run inconsistent with wild nature, with human freedom and with the elimination of modern technology. Leftism is collectivist; it seeks to bind together the entire world (both nature and the
human race) into a unified whole. But this implies management of nature and of human life by organized society, and it requires advanced technology. You can’t have a united world without rapid transportation and communication, you can’t make all people love one another without sophisticated psychological techniques, you can’t have a “planned society” without the necessary technological base"
Meanwhile, he just criticizes conservatives as slight hypocrites
"The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth."
If you want to see a better analysis and solution to saving the environment from ourselves, read these docs:
In short, this guy was your regular cottagecore libertarian who is anti-technology and wants to live in a fully-deindustrialized world, regardless of its costs on humanity, let alone on our carbon footprint on the planet, which will stay there for a long time and probably increase a bit after the destruction...
I feel about Bin Laden the same way I do about Ted Kaczinsky (sp?): might have some very good points but also really bad ones and neither strike me as particularly good people. America may have deserved 9/11 but for me that doesn’t translate to any support - even critical support - for Bin Laden.
Bin Laden's biggest mistake was not doing sequels. People love a connected universe. Imagine if we got a new 9/11 as frequently as we got a new mcu product.
I always just call him Uncle Teddy
He was that crazy, highly intelligent, but very odd uncle we all have or wish we had. A kindhearted outdoorsman with a real go-getter attitude towards hands-on education.
It's kinda interesting how the FBI had no fucking clue who the Unabomber was and he only got caught because he published his manifesto and his brother+sister in law recognized his crazy rambling and reported it. If he hadn't insisted on being so public with his message and his brother wasn't a snitch who knows.
he was a crazed racist mass murderer
Ok, I know it's the internet and text, but was the joke not clear here?
Like if I wrote "Hitler gets a lot of shit, but I always remember he was just a traditionalist who liked lederhosen and German shepherds" I hope people would understand it's not serious.
there are two types of people in these kinds of threads:
people who don't understand jokes and genuinely somehow believe that communists would say anything good about bin Laden or Kaczynski
other people who do bits where they pretend to be anarcho-wahhabists because it's funny
my expectations of people on the internet are really low sorry
I think we would but if anyone not from Lemmygrad/Hexbear said the same thing, we might not be as sure…
You confuse him with Anders Breivik? I think the Unabomber's bombings were not that effective to be considered mass murder
Edited...
ok fine he was a serial killer
I don't think he's smart at all with his political ideology, check his manifesto again...
https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/Industrial%20Society%20and%20Its%20Future.pdf
Here's one of his quotes:
Remind you again of someone, in fact, someone used his ideology for mass shooting (Anders Breivik)
Also, we support critically actually-existing socialist countries, to which he later says something on how we exaggerate the faults and assault of the Western world upon the third world while, at best, begrudgingly acknowledging our faults, which is self-projection, considering the right wingers have consistently whined about 100 million dead nowadays
In fact, one of his ideology's core tenet is full-out anti-leftism and he talks in great length about its threat to this ideology
Meanwhile, he just criticizes conservatives as slight hypocrites
"The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth."
If you want to see a better analysis and solution to saving the environment from ourselves, read these docs:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/59bc0e610abd04bd1e067ccc/t/60642e4f3bd29a1c5bb36e31/1617178208144/Hickel+et+al+-+Plunder+in+the+post-colonial+era.pdf
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(20)30196-0/fulltext
https://www.youtube.com/@OurChangingClimate
In short, this guy was your regular cottagecore libertarian who is anti-technology and wants to live in a fully-deindustrialized world, regardless of its costs on humanity, let alone on our carbon footprint on the planet, which will stay there for a long time and probably increase a bit after the destruction...
Sounds like an eco fascist to me.
Yes, he is... although I'm pretty sure, with his sympathies for hyper-individualism, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't achieved his plans either way...