Let's fucking go!!!
its false consciousness. the letter is actually anti-Semitic. they should read Noam Chomsky or something about manufacturing consent.
Your former president warned you previously about the devastating Jewish control of capital
Evangelical Christians are just as or more so invested in the state of Israel as Jews are.
Palestine in response to pressures on your administration by a Jewish lobby backed by enormous financial capabilities.
Again, its not "Jewish" lobby.
Osama isn't a friend of leftists.
Show
Obligatory plug for Inventing Reality, from which much of Manufacturing Consent was cribbed (or at least it predated MC by 2 years)
And yes, you do not have to hand it to Al-Qaeda. They are reactionaries. They point out things that liberals conveniently ignore sometimes, especially when they are engaged in anti-colonial struggle, but it's still in service of their right wing views.
If a chud says the sky is blue it does not mean that the sky is purple, but it does not mean he is right about anything else either.
I mean it does point out a lot of very real problems with the US but then it turns around and says 'and this is because the Jews control the banks and secretly rule America'
From my understanding, most people reading the letter aren't agreeing with everything it says, just realizing terrorism doesn't spawn out of nowhere and the US has committed horrific atrocities
I thought this was obvious, but apparently a lot of Americans are more racist than even I thought. And my opinion of my fellow hogs is below zero.
"Wow, those weird Muslim Arab people aren't simply born with a genetic memory that says "death to Amerikkka genocide all crackkkers?" My mind is blowing!"
Can you guys like at least use your magic to replace fr*nch fries with latkes? They're a superior culinary experience
I may be in board with this, if ketchup is still an acceptable condiment for usage on the latkes after we phase out the French fries.
ketchup isn't even that good. most other dipping sauces are superior
People are fucking concerned if you don't want ketchup. Get fries to go and it's "salt, pepper, ketchup?" "No thanks." 2 seconds later in the tone of my mom hearing that I'm hiking to the Yukon without a jacket, "how about some ketchup packets?"
I'll live
(really just said "no thanks" again, don't want to be rude to a worker but jeez)
You enjoy potato pancakes and their cousins with sour cream or apple sauce. Your mention of ketchup makes me want to commit sectarianism.
Ketchup on fried potatoes is praxis and anyone who claims otherwise is a gusano
"Hunger is hunger, but the hunger gratified by cooked meat eaten with a knife and fork and also ketchup is a different hunger from that which bolts down raw meat with the aid of hand, nail and tooth, or some weird ass bullshit like applesauce"
Karl Marx (emphasis mine)
me I use sour cream and apple sauce because I BREAK THE RULES and PUSH BOUNDARIES
sour cream and apple sauce on french fries
is this poutine?
also it's conclusions that the American civilian population are evil and deserve to die are just as fucked up as when Americans say that about Russia
Look I'm not saying we're all evil and deserve to die, but if any of us had a shred of moral courage we'd lay down our lives against the empire.
I mean Bin Laden's a start but somehow getting Parenti or Chomsky videos to go viral would be better. Baldwin too.
Fuck Chomsky, he's a sub-opportunist defender of the status quo he limply criticizes. Get fucking Kwame Ture on there.
I don't have a particularly high opinion on Chomsky but he's mostly had great no-holds-barred takes on Israel-Palestine which are straight and to the point, which is why clips of them have gone viral. But yes, we need to "sneak in" some actual revolutionary voices.
True, but he's a great gateway for baby leftists. Manufacturing Consent was very important to a lot of young leftists during the Bush administration.
The Baldwin/Buckley debate is hilarious because Buckley tries to pop off little WASP quips and Baldwin just ain't having it.
Do you have a link for that? I've never heard of either of them but that sounds entertaining
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I feel about Bin Laden the same way I do about Ted Kaczinsky (sp?): might have some very good points but also really bad ones and neither strike me as particularly good people. America may have deserved 9/11 but for me that doesn’t translate to any support - even critical support - for Bin Laden.
Bin Laden's biggest mistake was not doing sequels. People love a connected universe. Imagine if we got a new 9/11 as frequently as we got a new mcu product.
I always just call him Uncle Teddy
He was that crazy, highly intelligent, but very odd uncle we all have or wish we had. A kindhearted outdoorsman with a real go-getter attitude towards hands-on education.
It's kinda interesting how the FBI had no fucking clue who the Unabomber was and he only got caught because he published his manifesto and his brother+sister in law recognized his crazy rambling and reported it. If he hadn't insisted on being so public with his message and his brother wasn't a snitch who knows.
He was that crazy, highly intelligent, but very odd uncle we all have or wish we had. A kindhearted outdoorsman with a real go-getter attitude towards hands-on education.
he was a crazed racist mass murderer
Ok, I know it's the internet and text, but was the joke not clear here?
Like if I wrote "Hitler gets a lot of shit, but I always remember he was just a traditionalist who liked lederhosen and German shepherds" I hope people would understand it's not serious.
there are two types of people in these kinds of threads:
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people who don't understand jokes and genuinely somehow believe that communists would say anything good about bin Laden or Kaczynski
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other people who do bits where they pretend to be anarcho-wahhabists because it's funny
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my expectations of people on the internet are really low sorry
I think we would but if anyone not from Lemmygrad/Hexbear said the same thing, we might not be as sure…
You confuse him with Anders Breivik? I think the Unabomber's bombings were not that effective to be considered mass murder
Edited...
I don't think he's smart at all with his political ideology, check his manifesto again...
https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/classes/188/materials/Industrial%20Society%20and%20Its%20Future.pdf
Here's one of his quotes:
"Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives"
Remind you again of someone, in fact, someone used his ideology for mass shooting (Anders Breivik)
Also, we support critically actually-existing socialist countries, to which he later says something on how we exaggerate the faults and assault of the Western world upon the third world while, at best, begrudgingly acknowledging our faults, which is self-projection, considering the right wingers have consistently whined about 100 million dead nowadays
In fact, one of his ideology's core tenet is full-out anti-leftism and he talks in great length about its threat to this ideology
"To avoid this, a movement that exalts nature and opposes technology must take a resolutely anti-leftist stance and must avoid all collaboration with leftists. Leftism is in the long run inconsistent with wild nature, with human freedom and with the elimination of modern technology. Leftism is collectivist; it seeks to bind together the entire world (both nature and the human race) into a unified whole. But this implies management of nature and of human life by organized society, and it requires advanced technology. You can’t have a united world without rapid transportation and communication, you can’t make all people love one another without sophisticated psychological techniques, you can’t have a “planned society” without the necessary technological base"
Meanwhile, he just criticizes conservatives as slight hypocrites
"The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth."
If you want to see a better analysis and solution to saving the environment from ourselves, read these docs:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/59bc0e610abd04bd1e067ccc/t/60642e4f3bd29a1c5bb36e31/1617178208144/Hickel+et+al+-+Plunder+in+the+post-colonial+era.pdf
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X22002169
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(20)30196-0/fulltext
https://www.youtube.com/@OurChangingClimate
In short, this guy was your regular cottagecore libertarian who is anti-technology and wants to live in a fully-deindustrialized world, regardless of its costs on humanity, let alone on our carbon footprint on the planet, which will stay there for a long time and probably increase a bit after the destruction...
Yes, he is... although I'm pretty sure, with his sympathies for hyper-individualism, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't achieved his plans either way...
It's not at all surprising why this is considered mind-blowing to many young people who had been spoonfed "we got bombed because of our freedumbs" their entire lives subliminally. The general knowledge of America's "shenanigans" all over the world pre-9/11, never mind the MidEast in particular, is still so far behind despite being leagues better than two decades ago.
That said, seeing a lot of people "hand it" to scum like OBL and Tucker Carlson, even here, has been driving me up the wall. The antisemitic, immaterial drivel reactionaries spew simply spreads false consciousness which distracts from the root of Israel's role as an enforcer of Western capitalist hegemony. It's our job as communists to dispel that and raise class consciousness.
Educational system has failed to properly indoctrinate Gen Z, who is performing original research
JJ McCullough's response video to the "worrying trend" was honestly just kinda painful to watch. He seems like such a crotchety old man who thinks he knows better than them durn whippersnappers.
JJ McCucklough is a stupid Canuck fuck who runs his soy mouth on issues beyond his depth with all the arrogance that a centrist liberal worldview can explain and solve everything.
You mean this guy isn't even American and simping this hard for Biden? Fucking loser.
Exactly, liberals all around the world live together in the realm of la la land.
I mean, yeah, which is why I don't watch him much anymore, but could we please not use "soy" as some sort of weird pejorative?
My apologies I didnt mean to imply animosity towards you for supposedly being a fan, I just can't stand the fucker, should've been clearer.
What other shorthand is useful to describe bloodless liberal ghouls in a pejorative way?
Well, that's not what I took issue with, really, you can clown on me all you like on the grounds that I still watch Jejunum McCullough despite not being able to stand his politics. It's just that the term "soy" in that pejorative sense is tied up in all sorts of anti-Asian racist history and transmisogyny and whatnot, so I find anyone who uses that term a bit suspect. I've only ever seen it used by right-wing bozos before so it was very unexpected to see here.
Soy in right wing context is way more derived from anti-not traditionally masculine man, anti-woman, anti-vegetarian sentiment than it is about being anti asian. I don't really know how transmisogyny is different from misogyny in this context.
Really need to shut Canada down until we can figure out what the hell is going on
Replace him with Bruce McCullough. Indont really know his politics but he's my favorite ofnthe Kids in the Hall.
Biden could have Netanyahu fly to Washington and grovel at his feet if he wanted to. It’s not “impressive” that Biden got his dog to do a trick for treats
So, um, 1/140 in aid to the people being bombed of the aid he wanted for those bombing them? Can Obama give him his peace prize? Someone call Francis about beginning the process of canonization
Wait, you mean this guy, a person who wrote for a magazine created by William F. Buckley jr, had a bad take? Impossible.
Ghouls, sowing: Yes, yes... underfund the schools... vilify all teachers...
Ghouls, reaping: The education system has failed Gen Z...
It's false consciousness and some of the kids are going to start acting foolish cause of this (idk the age of gen Z and I'm not looking it up. I'm sure you're doing fine). But gen Z is inherenting a world on this collision course with doom since before they were born and are witnessing the suffering of the millennials who tried to wrestle with that reality earnestly. It's the easiest troll of my fucking life to take the "bad guy" from some conflict that these people take seriously and say that he was right. This is elementary for being annoying, an art which defined my adolescence. Getting a news site to take down his letter and getting an article written about you is what made 4chan fun before the Nazis came in. The left should facilitate Dagestani style wrestling and cook rice in a pot you have to flip upsidedown to get out so they get an education and don't move on to calling Hitler right.
I don't think the main takeaway for Gen Z on that letter was that homosexuality and jewish people are the source of the world's ills
It'd be pretty funny if Bin Laden destroyed the US a decade after his own death not through terrorism but because some American kids read a letter he wrote twenty years earlier.
A bunch of suburbanite gen Zs become cargo cult wahhabists. Instead of having Imams they learn about Islam from the moderators of meme discord groups.
The letter is trending? I should give it a read. Welcome to the new spin boys, buckle up!
Yeah that's what I'm seeing. Feel obligated to read it as someone who was in highschool during 9/11. Probably something I should have read a long time ago.
