:maybe-later-kiddo: is a pretty accurate reality of the left in the US. It does also speak volumes about how kneecapped third parties truly are in the US. I suppose there is an actual argument in there that there isn't really even a real left in the US. While I'm not going to do a sectarianism, it's pretty obvious how shit the DSA can be in falling in line with so many people with a D in front of their name and I think that's a pretty acceptable take. At least the national DSA that is, local ones are for sure not always like this.

The two party system in the US and electoralism in general here is just so bad that unless an actual, genuine and large working class movement happens, most of this will never change. The "left" that does vote probably doesn't really associate much with who they vote for. I'm just guessing here, because the alternative can seem worse for BIPOC and LGBTQA communities because of the rights ability in enact even more harmful laws than what the dems already do. But yeah, they did vote for them, so it's not wrong, but Aimee seems to heavily imply the right would be the answer and I'd hard disagree with that one