Plant based foods systems and degrowth are necessary to combat climate change. Failure to recognize this is soft climate denialism based in profit or self interest
Plant based foods systems and degrowth are necessary to combat climate change. Failure to recognize this is soft climate denialism based in profit or self interest
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You're enslaved for your secretions, raped so you'll reproduce and produce milk (mammals don't produce milk without pregnancy), have your kids taken from you so your milk goes to your owner, not your child, then murdered when you're still young for your flesh? Sounds rough, Diestar. You deserve liberation.
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So because you're exploited, that means it's okay to exploit and murder others. Cool solidarity, comrade
https://animalliberationpressoffice.org/NAALPO/2018/08/22/new-publication-18-theses-on-marxism-and-animal-liberation
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Nature is cruel so it's fine if we are too? We literally breed these people. These domesticated individuals wouldn't even be in the wild, so it's non-sequitur to bring the wild up. We shouldn't breed them at all.
Yes, please read the Marxist theory I just linked (it's not a book. It can be read in a sitting). Please also read the article about avoiding climate catastrophe (that has nothing to do with ethical veganism btw) that this comment thread is under. No offense, but your question about the ethics of goat farming has nothing to do with the article I shared. If you wanted to debate the merits of veganism, you should have posted to struggle sessions.
My bad
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Love to salute rape, it's not at all fucked.
Goat farms are not sanctuaries. The goats are there to be used for profit. They only produce milk when they are pregnant or after giving birth, just like human animals. They are continually inseminated so they keep producing milk. Their children are stolen from them and either raised for their milk and flesh or killed so that they can't have their mother's milk, otherwise the farmer will lose profit. When the goat is no longer produces as much milk, she is killed. Letting her live her natural lifespan is costly, and her body will not be worth much if it is old or diseased. Farmers are meat capitalists, and they will always put profit before ethics.
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Reminder that those goats are milked and slaughtered for "meat"
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Fuck off. If you can't read context, that's not my problem.
Edit: OP specifically came to my post about avoiding climate catastrophe to ask if farming goats for their milk and flesh is ethical if it's not done in a factory farm.
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I mean, it sounds like the situation you're describing is really a pet rather than an actual productive farm animal?
If they're to be slaughtered, it doesn't matter if they have a nice life frolicking in daisies all the time, that can't erase the fundamental violence and exploitation of the relationship. It's like a hipster workplace where they have cool hangout sessions and hammocks in the office. It may be nicer than normal, but it is still exploitation no matter what veneer you put on it, nor is it representative of the actual conditions of most people working under capitalism.
Not really a difference is there?
What is considered productive probably doesn't need to be related the scale of the farming.
Comments, deleted now, but they said they don't know if their neighbor uses the goats for meat or milk, which can sometimes mean they are just literally pets.
I read the comments, but having had a pack of brush goats, "pets" doesn't mean "not productive".