I produce for a band that the guitar player is that guy. he listens to only polyphia all day and constantly tries shoehorn in noodly shit that doesn't serve the song at all. Half the record has guitars that I went back and replaced myself with the singer bc he couldn't play the simple funky picking stuff the song needed.
Some metalheads I swear man. I'm from the punk side of things so it's the complete opposite lol. You have a guitar? It works? Even just barely? Okay good, that's all you need
that's how hip hop and pop is. The secret is guitars sound like guitars lol. yes there is minutia that guitar players can obsess over but the average person isn't going to notice or care so it's inherently navel gazey shit.
When I started producing I started thinking more big picture, how all the elements work together in the song and in the mix (since i'm a recording engineer by trade) and that little minutia in the guitar just matters way a lot less when you're thinking about more than just the guitar.
Lmaoo this is amazing to hear lol. I just know that a lot of line 6 stuff has become kind of a meme in the metal community. Maybe they're super elitist snobs or something? I guess people are more concerned about the stylistic aspects of their sound now, rather than having everything crystal clear and all? Definitely appreciate this "lo Fi" trend, if it is a thing.
also yea people aren't generally as concerned about gear as much anymore bc computers can do so much. I can tell you a lot of guitar stuff in pop music these days is 100% digital at least in pop and hip hop music. I haven't used an amp in the studio in years and the whole time I was just at the studio in LA the other producer there was just DIing all their stuff and he literally just released a song with dave grohl apparently lol.
Yeah computers have improved so much lately. I still remember when bands would search for weird analogue stuff to make the desired sound, like playing a guitar in part though the speakers of a tape recorder lol.
lol i mean i guess experimentation can be cool. it's just like anything else, it's the shutting yourself off to "only these ways of getting sound are valid" where it becomes :cringe: or thinking that that way is arbitrarily better bc you did some arcane or other shit to get there. I think as long as the music sounds good to people that's all that matters.
lol i just released a song with a popular post hardcore singer and all the guitars are DI'd and using plugins for amps and the drums are completely midi I just sound replaced the kick, snare, and toms with slate drums to make them sound a bit more real. My teenage/early 20s self would be talking so much shit about it haha but it's out and got picked up on New Alt so :shrug-outta-hecks:
Lol
I was one of those i only "play with tubes!" guys. Also i was like it's not good if there's no sweep picking and shit lol dumb ass metal head shit
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I produce for a band that the guitar player is that guy. he listens to only polyphia all day and constantly tries shoehorn in noodly shit that doesn't serve the song at all. Half the record has guitars that I went back and replaced myself with the singer bc he couldn't play the simple funky picking stuff the song needed.
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At least you didn't get to the phase where you destroy your line 6 pedals and amps with a hammer in your backyard (actual YouTube video I saw once)
thats some :zizek-ok: sniff shit. jesus christ lol
Some metalheads I swear man. I'm from the punk side of things so it's the complete opposite lol. You have a guitar? It works? Even just barely? Okay good, that's all you need
:gigachad:
that's how hip hop and pop is. The secret is guitars sound like guitars lol. yes there is minutia that guitar players can obsess over but the average person isn't going to notice or care so it's inherently navel gazey shit.
When I started producing I started thinking more big picture, how all the elements work together in the song and in the mix (since i'm a recording engineer by trade) and that little minutia in the guitar just matters way a lot less when you're thinking about more than just the guitar.
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Lmaoo this is amazing to hear lol. I just know that a lot of line 6 stuff has become kind of a meme in the metal community. Maybe they're super elitist snobs or something? I guess people are more concerned about the stylistic aspects of their sound now, rather than having everything crystal clear and all? Definitely appreciate this "lo Fi" trend, if it is a thing.
yes. that is exactly it lmao
Okay thanks for the clarification lol
also yea people aren't generally as concerned about gear as much anymore bc computers can do so much. I can tell you a lot of guitar stuff in pop music these days is 100% digital at least in pop and hip hop music. I haven't used an amp in the studio in years and the whole time I was just at the studio in LA the other producer there was just DIing all their stuff and he literally just released a song with dave grohl apparently lol.
Yeah computers have improved so much lately. I still remember when bands would search for weird analogue stuff to make the desired sound, like playing a guitar in part though the speakers of a tape recorder lol.
lol i mean i guess experimentation can be cool. it's just like anything else, it's the shutting yourself off to "only these ways of getting sound are valid" where it becomes :cringe: or thinking that that way is arbitrarily better bc you did some arcane or other shit to get there. I think as long as the music sounds good to people that's all that matters.
This so much. That's really all that matters in the end. However someone gets there is all up to them
lol i just released a song with a popular post hardcore singer and all the guitars are DI'd and using plugins for amps and the drums are completely midi I just sound replaced the kick, snare, and toms with slate drums to make them sound a bit more real. My teenage/early 20s self would be talking so much shit about it haha but it's out and got picked up on New Alt so :shrug-outta-hecks: