it was all right until they started talking about AOC. BJG turns into a ryan knight when she gets on a rip about muh electoralism and complaining that the soc dems aren't doing a communism yet. felt kinda bad for chelsea. brie really laid into her for the crime of not caring too much about parliamentary strategy and having a cynical view of what 5 or 6 progressives could realistically accomplish in congress.

virgil is really carrying. he is either saying off the wall shit in his characteristically amusing way, or he is quiet until he finally chimes in to ask the right question or state what the socialist position actually is. not the epic matt stream-of-consciousness crazy-eyed insights, but at least on the mark usually.

it's kinda said, i really liked BJG until the force the vote thing broke her brain. even if she is lib. i don't think FTV was a bad idea, but it was a terrible plot.

it's like that fungus that infects cicadas and start pumping cathinones into their little bodies making them extremely more hypersexual. i mean, realistically there were going to get fucked for 4 weeks, then go underground another 17 years. but the fungus makes them just fuck until they starve and their limbs start falling off and they die straightaway. it's transmissible, too. (to cicadas) that's how i think of FTV. to the point BJG spent like 20 minutes raging at chelsea for not having a burning parasocial hatred of AOC. for what was otherwise a chill and good stream.

they were talking about doing legit twitch streams and playing games (well, virgil + chelsea), it think it might be better than the podcast if they move in that direction. i thought it was a joke, but apparently virgil really is something of a gamer. he's into the map games seems like. makes sense.

    • vsafgaf [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I'm honestly done with people pretending like this. If someone is funded by self described leftist, promoted by them, endorsed by their organizations, etc. They are effectively the left. There is absolutely no point in running away from this because when you do it is ALL bullshit smoke and mirrors and the real "left" will always be whatever is most convenient in the moment. Kyle Kulinski explicitly said the point of the justice dems was to form a voting block, the entire strategy for the last 10 years only made any sense if leftist were willing to vote together on important issues.

      And don't do that garbage with putting poor people in quotations. I am poor, I helped with this shit even when I probably couldn't afford to because I thought people were serious about accomplishing something.

        • vsafgaf [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I've been in this community for awhile and seeing people pretend we were not trying to build a voting block and not to expect anything from the orgs and people you were all telling people to donate to and help. . .is just pissing me off to the point where I really need to take a break from the people here before I go to far. Like take care but I'm honestly starting to fucking hate the people here.

    • black_mold_futures [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Was this an explicit promise that anyone actually running made? Or was this just something people on the internet were batting around?

      lmao nerds are calling on the manager on the concept of collective action