I get that the people who do it gain the satisfaction of feeling measured and rational. But we already did this in 2003. I think some of you are too young to remember how people were made to feel crazy for doubting the articles about how Iraq could have WMDs.
10000000% this.
There has not been a single time since then that I have not stood by my demand for concrete evidence and fought every single fucking narrative tooth and nail until getting concrete evidence.
You will not shift my position until you show me concrete fucking evidence.
Until I get concrete evidence the position is that there is no reason to believe it came from a fucking lab.
Show me evidence and I will change my position. Until I get concrete peer reviewed science shut the fuck up pretty please and thank you. I have seen this shit kill literally millions of people too many times now to not fight it.
That's what this user was pushing everywhere on the site right? Seems like a logical step for people talking about a user that was probably up to no good to talk about what they were pushing.
You've convinced me that I need to modify my messaging on the subject to fit the current political realities. I'm used to discussing the lab origin with incredulous friends several months ago before it became part of the national conversation. Now that the hypothesis is in the zeitgeist and is being used to further imperialism, it's more important to acknowledge that the evidence is inconclusive and that dozens of labs in the world could just as easily be the culprit.
What’s supposed to happen if we’re all reasonable and accept this idea?
If we accept that SARS2 may have come from a lab, it opens up the possibility that China is not merely the victim of a baseless disinformation and smear campaign, but that it could be the framed scapegoat for an accidental or purposeful leak from a US lab. That has implications on our understanding of the very nature of the COVID/China propaganda campaign (it becomes understood as projection), and affects the kind of evidence that we should be on the look out for.
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10000000% this.
There has not been a single time since then that I have not stood by my demand for concrete evidence and fought every single fucking narrative tooth and nail until getting concrete evidence.
You will not shift my position until you show me concrete fucking evidence.
Until I get concrete evidence the position is that there is no reason to believe it came from a fucking lab.
Show me evidence and I will change my position. Until I get concrete peer reviewed science shut the fuck up pretty please and thank you. I have seen this shit kill literally millions of people too many times now to not fight it.
Somehow this thread went from "show me your peepee lol" to "covid was NOT developed in a lab OK!?!?"
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That's what this user was pushing everywhere on the site right? Seems like a logical step for people talking about a user that was probably up to no good to talk about what they were pushing.
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You've convinced me that I need to modify my messaging on the subject to fit the current political realities. I'm used to discussing the lab origin with incredulous friends several months ago before it became part of the national conversation. Now that the hypothesis is in the zeitgeist and is being used to further imperialism, it's more important to acknowledge that the evidence is inconclusive and that dozens of labs in the world could just as easily be the culprit.
I try to synthesize it like this now.
If we accept that SARS2 may have come from a lab, it opens up the possibility that China is not merely the victim of a baseless disinformation and smear campaign, but that it could be the framed scapegoat for an accidental or purposeful leak from a US lab. That has implications on our understanding of the very nature of the COVID/China propaganda campaign (it becomes understood as projection), and affects the kind of evidence that we should be on the look out for.