I'm not under the impression that "the same system we have now but a bunch of worker coops" would be some kind of ideal society, but it's far and away a better business structure than the ones we have now.

What are the barriers to successful coops being established?

  • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    Also I suppose starting a coop as opposed to a capitalist enterprise is basically an act of charity, legally you have the right to sole ownership but you'd need to have the ideological conviction to turn it down which a lot of people won't.

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Yes, if you've managed to pull together the capital you need to start a business entirely on your own there is inherently that lure of self-interest, and if you don't have a group of people that you trust and value enough to share that with them (and who, obviously, are even interested in that area of work to begin with) trying to form a coop with a group of strangers entirely with your own funds and backing is a sort of act of charity and ideological conviction.

      Like say I stumbled dick first into a winning lottery ticket tomorrow and I wanted to put together a coop to ensure that I'd have a somewhat secure and ethical way to keep making a living instead of throwing all the money into a stock portfolio and leaching off others: everyone I'm close enough to to feel comfortable trying to drag into that is scattered around the country and every one of them has wildly different fields and skill sets. I'd still set out to try but I'd also be stumbling in the dark because as far as I know there's no "so you've got the money to start a business, but the moral conviction to not want to be a bourgeois parasite? here's how to make a coop and find similarly minded people!" guide book.

      It's just one of the core problems with coops, alongside coops being a sort of individualistic harm-reduction move within a capitalist economy (in that they're good for everyone involved and reduce the harm those people suffer as a result of the capitalist system, but they only do this for those personally involved, they're not a scalable systemic solution to reduce and eventually eliminate the destructive hegemony of capitalism). Although I will say that I believe coops as a model could well have a place in a socialist economy for things that aren't of critical importance to the economy (so industry, agriculture, healthcare, education, logistics, etc would all be state/community controlled, but restaurants, local gardens, entertainment, etc all have a place for coops and a framework for democratically allocating resources to those coops would probably be a good thing).

    • Hoyt [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Unless you and 30 of your comrade workers all crowd into your local bank's loan officer's cubicle to all ask for a loan together lmao