I know it’s marketing. Which is why I think they should kill themselves. Perpetuating the “AI will ruin humanity” narrative - not because of violating labor laws and committing war crimes, but because le terminator - deserves nothing but scorn and death. I WISH the evil AI was real so these people would be tormented for eternity.

  • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
    ·
    8 months ago

    The problem is that the crypto scammers are now going to "AI". They used to steal art to make nft and now they steal it to train generative models.

    But while a lot in crypto is self serving, the advances in generative AI are here to stay. A crash is the industry won't make it disappear, only slow down. There models are our there and for many uses they are already very good.

    I clearly imagine my children not knowing what crypto is, but seeing generative AI as a normal aspect of life, like phones are now. If that's a good or a bad thing might be debatable.

    • TheCaconym [any]
      ·
      8 months ago

      steal art [...] and now they steal it

      Copying is not stealing.

      for many uses they are already very good

      Assuming you're talking about LLMs, which use cases, seriously ? outside of creative writing for games and the like (for which I could see them being useful) and spam generation, given what they produce is basically credible-sounding text with no guaranteed relation to the truth, which use cases ? even those developers assisting tools are pretty shit (not to mention leaking info on you and what you develop).

      • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
        ·
        8 months ago

        LLMs do great if you don't consider them to be always right. Review the result same as if it was a random post on the internet (which also tend to alucinante).

        About info leaking, there are very robust models that run on high end computers, and the requirements are lowering fast.

        Image generation is also very good, but I don't have much experience with it.

        LLMs can even assist with coding (again, consider anything it spits as the work of a junior and review).

        As with crypto, the problem lot of people see is how much it has been misused, both for incomplece and malice. But the tech itself is improving fast.

        • TheCaconym [any]
          ·
          8 months ago

          LLMs do great if you don't consider them to be always right. Review the result same as if it was a random post

          That was my point: IMO this makes them useless for almost the entirety of use cases.

          LLMs can even assist with coding

          I covered that as well.

          And yes, llama for example runs on off-the-shelf consumer computers. Almost nobody except online geeks use LLMs like this - certainly not most corporations. They all send critical data to third parties online instead.

          Image generation I can see a lot more use cases. LLMs, again, I can see a few paltry ones but nowhere near what the hype is currently pretending will be viable.

          • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
            ·
            8 months ago

            I see your point, but it's a bit short sighted to think "it's not perfect now, therefore useless". Even when it's consistently giving better answers than a human, it still still make mistakes.

            3 years ago we wouldn't have this conversation, it would sound like science fiction.

            BTW, I am not saying the hype for current stuff is correct, just that in the future we will keep this tech, unlike some other failed ones.

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
              ·
              8 months ago

              Even when it's consistently giving better answers than a human, it still still make mistakes.

              it's not giving consistently better answers than a human it gives answers consistently on the level of a 12 year old writing a report and rewording the wikipedia article

              • seeking_perhaps [he/him]
                ·
                8 months ago

                yea its like a 12 year old with infinite google time. like yea, sometimes it will spit out the right answer, but it doesn't know enough to know why that answer is right or how to check it.

            • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
              ·
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              It is highly doubtful we will keep this tech or ever use it at-scale for anything actually useful. The most I've seen it for is rapid photo touch-ups in graphic design, but tech for that has existed for years.

              What it could possibly be used for effectively is bias studies, but because everyone is obsessed with it replicating 'truth', something that even basic human language and culture is ill-equipped for, it will never actually work as intended. We will waste billions of dollar on it when we could be using that money to create detailed and specific statistical models for events that actually reflect those events as close as we can scientifically.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          ·
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          As with crypto

          Internet funny money is forever a solution looking for a problem while having a staggering energy cost and producing a staggering amount of carbon pollution because of the inherent requirements of the blockchain itself to redundantly multiply the computation work compared to conventional currency transmitted electronically.

          • VILenin [he/him]
            ·
            8 months ago

            Speak for yourself, my family and I have adopted Monopoly money as our primary currency. It has actually drastically reduced our cost of living! It seems that others are so in awe of this new mode of trade that they aren’t prepared to give us anything in return yet. We are slowly starving to death but we will 100% be resurrected by the AI god emperor overlords who will personally serve me and vanquish my enemies in a day of reckoning. No this isn’t a cult.

          • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
            ·
            8 months ago

            Internet funny money is forever a solution looking for a problem

            The problem is just "we don't have enough of your money," same as the problem that most "disruptive" innovations set out to solve.

      • WithoutFurtherBelay
        ·
        8 months ago

        Copying is not stealing.

        “Stealing” in this case means profiting off of another person’s art (labor) without their consent or permission.