For context, this is from the trailer from the Divided States of America spin-off miniseries (from the Kaiserreich universe from Hearts of Iron mods). It casts the Combined Syndicates of America (the socialist faction in the civil war) in a mostly negative light because something something warcrimes something something revolution is bad.
I mean I would expect that any successful american socialist movement uses american imagery, particularly of people viewed as liberators and the founding fathers. “We’re continuing along the path the founding fathers and lincoln laid down for us by liberating America from capitalism”
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If historical dialectics teaches us anything it’s that we never get that clean break we all want. Gotta go through a lot of shit to get to the inevitable light at the end
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Based on the imagery I'm imagining an alternate history where Lincoln goes communist and less bigoted.
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Yeah, I'm an ML. A Marxist-Lincolnist 😎
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If only
Just imagine him surviving Booth and saying “you know what? Enough’s enough” and going full Stalin on the south
I mean at least Lincoln did some actual meaningful good, unlike the founders who were all just flaming hypocrites and bastards save maybe Thomas Paine.
Well Lincoln is rightfully being seen as less and less of a "liberator" as historical study progresses. Black slaves were defecting and joining the Union army in large rates, taking emancipation and remuneration into their own hands to great extent. The Emancipation Proclamation really was a formalization of an already undergoing social revolutionary process of self emancipation, and one that Lincoln only undertook reluctantly because his mission in fighting the Civil War was never in ending slavery but in preserving the Union. That's why he said if he could have preserved the Union without freeing a single slave, he would have.
This is a large reason why I find the "procession of heads" in ML imagery rather strange, but especially ones that are retconned to include these dork ass fantasies about Lincoln representing some radical Republican agenda that was really self consciously emancipatory. Lincoln was kind of a dumb shit milquetoast liberal tbh. And his political miscalculations and unwillingness to pursue a radical break with entrenched American institutions including slavery led to a lot of misery and injustice that persists to the present day.
Like if you want a procession of heads from the American Republicans, do like Thaddeus Stevens or something. Lincoln was just straight up not that great.
Can someone do procession of heads with john brown replacing lincoln? Cause I think that would be dope.