• aardvarkbones [comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      She is mending the divide between technocrats and communists with AI

      https://twitter.com/OliviaLittle/status/1400286746202546183

            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              Being dirty does not make one a crust punk. People really use that term way too liberally

                  • SiskoDid2ThingsWrong [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    Eh in my experience there’s some cross over.

                    It’s defo more that kinda “folk crust punk” than “urban crust punk” vibe tho.

                    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                      3 years ago

                      Folk is not crust. You can be homeless and like music without being a crusty. It's a music genre and has its own style.

                      • SiskoDid2ThingsWrong [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        Jeez you’re very legalistic about the definition of crust punk lol.

                        I dated a crust punk girl for a while and more folk-ish people were hanging around her crustie house a lot, seems to be decent cross over between the communities so I don’t think most people really give a fuck if you accidentally call a folk punk a crustie.

                        Honestly early grimes doesn’t fit any label well. She had a bit of a punk aesthetic in terms of her fashion which was a bit crust as time, and the boat trip thing does seem like something a folk punk would do but she also makes electronic music so who the fuck know.

                        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                          3 years ago

                          I've been heavily involved in punk for about fifteen years and live with someone who's been crust as fuck since the early 90s. Folk punk was basically a bunch of rich hipsters doing a rough appropriation of the look and kinda just forced themselves on the scene. Very underground punk has been an extending network going back to the early 80s and generally building on a history. A bunch of very different people playing very different music who act very different just kinda deciding they're part now has been a pain in the ass for a long time now.

                          • SiskoDid2ThingsWrong [none/use name]
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                            3 years ago

                            Maybe the scene I was fucking around in during my 20s was just unique but punk was pretty “big tent”, as long as you liked some kind of punk music and didn’t look like a total normie you were free to just hang around and identify as whatever. Plus the punks, metal heads and indie hipster nerds all hung together and fucked and nobody really cared much about labels.

                            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                              3 years ago

                              My perspective is from touring and travelling, some may hang out or party together but there's coming out to some shows or parties and actually being involved ie securing venues, putting on shoes, getting touring bands in and doing the DIY punk legwork. Folk punks seem to kinda have their own network over time but when the nitty gritty of organizing shit comes in there's a lot of difference.

                              • SiskoDid2ThingsWrong [none/use name]
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                                3 years ago

                                Eh maybe it’s just cuz this was a smaller city but there really wasn’t much segregation, bands of wildly different genres would play the same shows. People from both “scenes” and others would show. The lead singer of our biggest street punk band was bonking the bassist for this goth new wave band, nobody really gave a shit if you like indie music you were part of the “scene”. ___

                                • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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                                  3 years ago

                                  I'm in a small city as well. But we also have a rediculous musical output for the population. We got pop punk Ramones ripoff bar bands doing their own thing, punks who are all at least crust flavored, we don't really have Casualties looking steet punks at all, varying folk punk types from oogle to softboi, hardcore kids and metal dudes and usually shows are basically just punk with maybe one or two hardcore kid bands or only folk punk and the other punks don't show up. Everyone plays in like 3-5 bands so you can get a show going with very few band members to draw from.

                                  Essentially most crust punks don't like folk punk and folk punk kids will come out to shows but will never listen to crust in their own time. Aside from that everyone is poor and tend to draw from similar resources like different animals at the same watering hole.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        The great part of what she's saying is that it's the same technological salvation thing the bourgeoisie are already selling, she's just rephrasing it as something communists should also want. This is fascinating to me since she's together with Elon Musk, who is the current mascot of tech salvation.

        "You don't need to be a communist because we'll have an implausibly advanced magic tech thing that creates utopia and the current situation bends in that direction also the father of my child is one of the richest people on earth and makes money by promising and not delivering magic tech things"

      • Barabas [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Hmm, the Griffith in the background with this speech seems kind of sus, ngl. The whole AI argument falls apart when you have to consider that it relies on the capitalists not just implementing it in order to hoard more wealth. Sure, automation is cool and good, but the system still remains.

        Just gotta let the capitalists acquire more wealth in order to make more automation, it is gonna drip down eventually.

  • yomama2020 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    lol first they told me "blockchain will magically solve all problems bro" then they told me "cryptocurrency will magically solve all problems bro" now they're telling me "[insert new technology here] will magically solve all problems bro"

    • Express [any,none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Engineering does not solve social problems. Engineering is the way power manifests itself in the world. If all the worlds engineers are building better castle technology, it’s probably because someone really wants a better castle for some reason.