The difference between bombing Libya and invading Iraq is somewhere around 2 million dead bodies. There is no comparison, no matter how bad leftists want to own the libs.
Democrats and Republicans have different views on how to maintain American hegemony. Since Vietnam (now old enough that the decisionmakers are not just out of power, but mostly dead), Democrats have shied away from full-scale invasions and occupations, which are more destructive and deadly to the target country. Democrats don't really care that invasions/occupations are more harmful to other countries, of course; what they care about is avoiding getting stuck in a war long term. They'll sanction, they'll bomb, they'll send in special forces, they'll drone strike, but they're not rolling in with the full weight of the U.S. military, taking over all the cities, and setting up an occupation government.
Republicans, on the other hand, are eager to invade and occupy -- as they did with Afghanistan and Iraq, and as they came close to doing with Iran. They did abbreviated versions of this (still more significant than nearly anything Democrats have done) in Grenada, Panama, and the Gulf War, too. You can find no shortage of high-ranking Republicans who openly want even more of this: John McCain called for "100 years in Iraq" and sang "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" in 2008, at maybe the height of opposition to the Iraq War, during his presidential campaign. And of course all the neocon stooges in the Trump administration nearly steered us into an invasion and occupation of Iran that would have killed millions more than the Iraq War.
"They're basically the same" is an awful take. It makes leftists look like we don't know what the hell we're talking about, because even a passing review of the destruction caused by each party shows there's no comparison at all.
Joe Biden’s involvement
Yes, a good chunk of Democrats have blood on their hands for Iraq. But the vast, vast, vast majority of responsibility lies with the Bush administration. That's who fabricated evidence of WMDs, called for an invasion (as opposed to continuing the past decade's approach, or setting up something like the Iran nuclear deal under Obama), and who ultimately pulled the trigger. These things aren't comparable and won't land with anyone who isn't already a leftist.
Has Joe Biden changed undone what Trump undid after Obama?
Again, this is a bad thing Biden continued, not something that makes Biden worse.
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The difference between bombing Libya and invading Iraq is somewhere around 2 million dead bodies. There is no comparison, no matter how bad leftists want to own the libs.
Democrats and Republicans have different views on how to maintain American hegemony. Since Vietnam (now old enough that the decisionmakers are not just out of power, but mostly dead), Democrats have shied away from full-scale invasions and occupations, which are more destructive and deadly to the target country. Democrats don't really care that invasions/occupations are more harmful to other countries, of course; what they care about is avoiding getting stuck in a war long term. They'll sanction, they'll bomb, they'll send in special forces, they'll drone strike, but they're not rolling in with the full weight of the U.S. military, taking over all the cities, and setting up an occupation government.
Republicans, on the other hand, are eager to invade and occupy -- as they did with Afghanistan and Iraq, and as they came close to doing with Iran. They did abbreviated versions of this (still more significant than nearly anything Democrats have done) in Grenada, Panama, and the Gulf War, too. You can find no shortage of high-ranking Republicans who openly want even more of this: John McCain called for "100 years in Iraq" and sang "bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" in 2008, at maybe the height of opposition to the Iraq War, during his presidential campaign. And of course all the neocon stooges in the Trump administration nearly steered us into an invasion and occupation of Iran that would have killed millions more than the Iraq War.
"They're basically the same" is an awful take. It makes leftists look like we don't know what the hell we're talking about, because even a passing review of the destruction caused by each party shows there's no comparison at all.
Yes, a good chunk of Democrats have blood on their hands for Iraq. But the vast, vast, vast majority of responsibility lies with the Bush administration. That's who fabricated evidence of WMDs, called for an invasion (as opposed to continuing the past decade's approach, or setting up something like the Iran nuclear deal under Obama), and who ultimately pulled the trigger. These things aren't comparable and won't land with anyone who isn't already a leftist.
Again, this is a bad thing Biden continued, not something that makes Biden worse.