based or cringe? One one hand human right activists in these countries are using Twitter to create awareness about the local isseus. On the other hand, CIA also uses it to manufacture consent to whatever plans they got
based or cringe? One one hand human right activists in these countries are using Twitter to create awareness about the local isseus. On the other hand, CIA also uses it to manufacture consent to whatever plans they got
Totally fair. I don't mean to imply they are, I just mean to imply the effect is to remove the power of proles to influence the masses, that's what social media is doing.
Are you saying that banning social media removes the power of proles to influence the masses, or are you saying that social media itself (by being an imperialist mouthpiece) removes the power of proles to influence the masses?
I'm saying that social media is the modern newspaper except it is audience controlled to an extent. In essence, it is a newspaper that is prole created.
That's not 100% true of course because the site admins control content via algorithms and rules. But it still places massively more power in the hands of proles than the traditional newspaper where the editor has 100% of the power over content. They still have a lot of power (especially if you really want to flex and shape the narrative), but not 100%.
So with that understanding of it, the removal of social media removes power from the proles.
I should clarify this part. If you run a subreddit or facebook group or any community for example, you can act rather ruthlessly and do INCREDIBLE work shaping that community into literally anything you want it to be. I have watched first hand 3 communities now get taken over by communists who understand this "it's a newspaper and we're the editors" concept. Those communities went from liberal to full-tilt unfiltered communism in weeks with almost no drop in overall traffic and activity. The shift was largely accepted as long as the mod team worked hard at ruthlessly crushing liberal opposition and played it the right way. So yes there's a huge amount of power that lies on the admin and moderator side on social media but in the vast majority of spaces it is not being flexed that way because so many truly do not understand what social media is in this kind of way. I do not think many people even among the social media crowd have figured this out or written about it either. My background is in marketing and community management so I'm fairly up to date in the field.
A bit of an aside, but do you have any particular or immediate reaction to the words "we're launching a new community" ?
You can't launch a community. :marx-joker:
Excellent, that's exactly what I was looking for
Wait, how was this possible if the liberal mods were still there?
Most mod teams on reddit operate on consensus driven by internal discussions in moderator discords. If the communists in the modteam become the consensus the liberals get pushed out.
But how did the communists get on the modteam of a lib subreddit in the first place?
Usually because libs aren't selecting moderators ideologically or because a person who used to be a lib becomes a communist. Internal fighting occurs and the communists are usually the correct side in that kind of shit.
On top of this, in reddit modteams the person who puts the most work in becomes the most influential in the team and this is often the communists.
There's also the redder over time effect to consider. Any space with communists in it inevitably turns everyone around them redder over time. It only takes one.
Could this happen on the big news subs? Are those too closely monitored by admins and ideological fascists?
Heh, I'm reminded of the old r/cth. Didn't even know how it happened exactly.
right? I started off as a fuckin obama lib, what the fuck.
Communists are just really, really good at arguing apparently. People moan about the struggle sessions, but those were pretty damn informative.
It absolutely could and there already are communists in some of those teams. The problem you have however is that the modteams themselves are absolutely enormous. The larger the team the harder it is to gain communist consensus. The smaller the team the easier it is to gain communist consensus through mod team expansions or flipping existing mods.