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  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    The roman roads, which have endured for over 2,000 years while still working in some cases, are just not as good as the asphalt roads that break every winter. Glad to know capital has saved us from reliable, functioning infrastructure.

    • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Just yesterday I was reading about how Australian techniques for combating wildfires have been very inefficient. Well what do you know, the aboriginals have been dealing with this shit for hundreds of years so let's appropriate their knowledge without compensating them properly

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        It's the same way in america. They still don;t want to admit we are just now barely coming around to understanding what Native Americans have known and been trying to explain and practice for centuries. But they'll let thousands die every year in California wild fires before acknowledging that maybe it isn't good to try to build a home in a place that catches fire a lot and then keep it dry,

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        When you said "Australian techniques for combating wildfires" I thought "But indigenous Australians have been doing it for thousands of years". I read weirdly.

    • 5bicycles [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Okay sort of a pet peeve but while cobblestone roads such as the romans built are incredibly long lasting they suck shit for anyone in a wheelchair, with a pram or on a bicycle.

      Asphalt theoretically good folks. Just gotta apply it correctly instead of for vehicles that fuck it up in no time flat.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        Seeing as those roads were not designed around those three things, but asphalt roads were definitely designed around cars, I still have to give the win to the Romans on this one. I do see your criticism, and it's a valid point when it comes to city planning, but the Roman roads have done their jobs so much better than the modern roads.

        • 5bicycles [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Seeing as those roads were not designed around those three things, but asphalt roads were definitely designed around cars,

          Asphalt roads were not designed for cars lol. They just use them, much to everybodies detriment.

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            3 years ago

            Oh. Regardless, asphalt roads are being put down for cars to use, so they are doing a really bad job at that.

            • 5bicycles [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              That's like, the point though.

              Do cobblestone for cars and above - it'll keep forever - do asphalt for everythhing below that and it'll keep forever.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      OK but try driving with a car on a roman road. Or using a bike/wheelchair/what have you.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        That's a fair criticism, but it worked great for what it was designed for. It was a much better investment than the roads we have now.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I really don't think it was better. It was just designed to do something completely different. Asphalt does what it needs to do as well and efficiently as anyone has figured out so far at least.

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            3 years ago

            the roads were built for people and carts to travel on, and people and carts have traveled over them for the last 2,000 years at least. Asphalt is built to be driven on, and needs to be repaired every 5 years at best. They both are being used for transportation, one has just held up way better than the other.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Yes but again, have you tried driving on a paved road? With carts it wasn't too bad because they don't go very fast. There is no way you could use paved roads for cars going fast, and if the road gets any wet it becomes prohibitively slippery for driving. It's not like we could stop making asphalt roads and just start paving them instead.