IMO nothing touches opiates as far as addiction potential goes. That shit becomes as important as food, water, and sex to an opiate hijacked brain.

Still, yes I think they should be completely legal. Legalizing these drugs would completely destroy the black market for these drugs and greatly mitigate deaths from shit like fentanyl and carfentanyl.

    • StLangoustine [any]
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      3 years ago

      I mean, generally drugs and meds are controlled and criminalized because they are considered dangerous or socially harmful.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Like yes. I don't think Krokodil should be available to 5 year olds. And obviously things like the Opium Wars in China showed that drugs can have disastrous effects. But then we rapidly go down the path when we realise that if we ban, say, Meth, we must also ban alcohol on the same criteria.

        • StLangoustine [any]
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          3 years ago

          There are also a whole bunch of things that are bunch of things that are banned despite being only dangerous to user, like riding a motorbike without a helmet. Furthermore some drug can make some people dangerous to other people and that's not talking about social cost and shit.

          Like I know that criminalization is generally a bad idea, but there might be other options than "every drug easily accessible to anyone at any time", right?

            • StLangoustine [any]
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              3 years ago

              and idk maybe a bad take but if someone wants to ride a bike without a helmet, ok, it’s stupid and dangerous and might kill them but if they’re fully informed on the risks and it won’t increase the chance of death for someone else, it’s their life.

              See this is we disagree. To me those helmet laws are just good policy. They've been proven to save lives and it's not like people are rotting in jail for unpaid helmet fines.

                • StLangoustine [any]
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                  3 years ago

                  Well, that's how people usually discuss policy, not an absolute thing but quantitative. Is enjoyment people get from a particular extreme sport worth preventable injuries and death? Is enjoyment people get from not wearing the helmet worth the death? I'd say no to the second question...

                    • StLangoustine [any]
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                      3 years ago

                      I dunno, my knowledge of those particular sports is limited so I'm not necessarily convinced they shouldn't be banned or a least heavily regulated. They are at some places.

                      Next thing we know people we'll come up with a pricey "riding without helmet" licence that requires people to prove they are an expert bike person or something. I don't really care as long as it decreases the incidence.

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      3 years ago

      it's the very self-destructive behavior that comes with addiction that's the problem, the question is whether or not or to what extent you believe a government should protect individuals from themselves