• GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Bo Burnham isn't Lenin. His shit is good but probably won't really radicalized anyone in any meaningful way. Libs eat this kind of shit up as well. You can express what's wrong with the world with absolute clarity and get away with it, you only get trouble when you bring up solutions.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      You can express what’s wrong with the world with absolute clarity and get away with it, you only get trouble when you bring up solutions

      Someone wrote a comment here about Harry Potter and how liberals are brilliant at making fiction about all the problems the world has but then include absolutely none of the real solutions to those problems in their fiction. They can interpret the problems of the world but do nothing to resolve them beyond restoring the status quo of problems in the world existing.

    • Fartman77 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      the sign of a radlib is someone that says all the things said above but doesn't identify any meaningful solutions. Usually just bullshit reformism and petitions.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Yup. And that's a huge huge market right now. People are lining up to be buy radical aesthetic and rhetoric sold by capitalists. Which is kinda good, it means that there's enough radlibs to be worth marketing to. A few will take the next step, the rest may follow suite as material conditions decline. Who's to say really? As annoying as they are radlibs are capable of being useful and further radicalization.

        • Fartman77 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          The lining up and buying situation is kinda what occurred to BLM, the movement was co-opted by capitalists and was just turned into an aesthetic and something to sell products for. My expectations were diminished when I saw that happening. But radlibs are very receptive to radical messages and just need to be made aware and educated about systems outside of capitalism.

          • CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn [any]
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            4 years ago

            IMO we're not at the point where we can really evaluate that movement. None of the conditions that created that energy have changed, and it's still there under the surface as people of colour are still getting murdered by cops constantly.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Exactly. This is pretty much the struggle of the modern first world left. To draw the conversation away from culture and towards the material.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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      4 years ago

      Okay: They're murdering everyone and the capitalist world is built on the back of genocide and slave labor.

      Not Okay: Maybe pick up a gun and go fix it.

      • Fartman77 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        A gun and a book and something helpful. Gun is very late stage, most of America is not that radical yet and the state isn't destabilized enough yet.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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          4 years ago

          The order is really Organize > Books > Guns with the first two being interchangeable depending on if you're organizing from scratch or joining an organization.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            I'd switch organize with book. You maybe don't need to read theory to join an org but you definitely should if you're trying to start one.

          • Fartman77 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Thats the most effective order. you're point of liberals being allergic to action still stands. I think they would turn a socialist in given half the chance because "eww scary they are sooo mean".

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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              4 years ago

              Yeah, that's what I mean about how this was allowed to be published. He can talk about the first two points as much as he wants, but any mention of action would be censored.

              • Fartman77 [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                I listened to that for the first time yesterday and was laughing my ass off. Shit never changes