of course even white westerners here still simp for him after he's said multiple times how proud he was to help destroy our countries. Fuck the troops all day.

        • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Why would he even try though? It's pretty clear from the OP's reply that it's a waste of time for him to do so. The dunk is getting ignored?

            • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Alright - so what if that lib rightly believes that it's true? What does that do? Will they somehow decide to vote for left candidates for office? Electoral politics is pushing rope in a lot of ways, but it's also something where the personal morality of the candidate isn't even a factor beyond disqualifying things, and being a baby-killer isn't one of those in the US. Put the shittiest bastard on earth in office if they can forward my political goals.

                • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  i don’t really know what you’re arguing here, are you arguing against liberals moving further left? is that not a good thing?

                  No, moving people left is a good thing - I didn't mean to make that as muddled as I did

                  we’re talking about an electoralist who pretends to be on the left not being able to defend themselves or even realize that they too are/were at some point in their lives, a fucking bastard.

                  My comments weren't all that well thought out - I haven't been following Carter closely enough to know exactly what he's said about his service, but I do know it's sort of worthless electorally to admit he was a bastard. Should he? Yes, absolutely, but if it doesn't play with his constituents, and it's only for the very online leftists, then it's a waste of time.

                  personal morality is the only factor when it comes to representation.

                  Who's he representing? The left as a whole? Did he claim to do that? Did The Squad ever claim to do that? Will socialism get support because all the elected representatives pushing left are paragons of virtue? I don't think it will. Having someone say "yes, I'm a socialist and I got you this school breakfast program/addiction treatment center/school funding" very well could.