of course even white westerners here still simp for him after he's said multiple times how proud he was to help destroy our countries. Fuck the troops all day.

  • Fakename_Bill [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Social democracy is the left wing of liberalism. If liberalism == fascism, then words don't fucking mean anything.

    • jabrd [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      And fascism is liberalism in decline, so...? Like what’s fascism if not the imperialism of liberalism brought home from the ‘frontier’

      • Fakename_Bill [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Most social democrats in America are persuadable. True fascists are not.

        You have to understand, while it's appealing to just parrot refrains from the 1930s about social democrats and fascists, the political situation in the United States is completely different to that of Weimar Germany. In Germany after WWI, there was a communist party with actual social influence. Those who chose to be social democrats did so because they had an ideological commitment to anticommunism. This is NOT the case in America. People become social democrats because they see the myriad problems that capitalism causes in this country, but American politics skew so right-wing and communism is so taboo that social democracy is seen as the extent of what's politically possible on the Left. Those social democrats are absolutely persuadable.

        • jabrd [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Agreed, the material conditions produce different political outcomes so yes in America social democrats are the best we get and yes they are persuadable. But they’re also not revolutionary and they never have been exactly because they link into the institutions of the bourgeois state. Their failure to break from those institutions helps reinforce them and allow them to persist as they devolve into fascism re:Weimar Republic. SocDems are only useful in as much as their ability to break their ties to those institutions and work to end them/gum them up to be less effective (ie their ability to stop being SocDems)