Seoul police are investigating how a North Korean defector who fled south ended up back in the North. Appearing tearful in a North Korean television interview, Lim Ji-hyeon told viewers she had escaped a capitalist hell.
Oh do try to dig yourself out of your own ass, you seem to have gone too far up there.
Reddit tier faux condescension has no place here. Kindly go fuck yourself until you've figured out how to talk to other people.
Now see, I read your comments before saying anything and no, you actually did lead with these insinuations and then doubled down on them. If you meant something else, that's on you for failing to communicate because no fewer than three separate people (100% of responses) have the same understanding as I do.
You're avoiding very basic self-crit, here. In fact, you went out of your way to excise the preceding sentence to avoid the new bit of self-crit I highlighted.
Go have your shitty imperialist thought process elsewhere until you can handle conflict among comrades without becoming a huge lib stooping to misleading selective quotation.
Comrade initial point was, as I’ve understood it, that quotes were deliberately pulled to seem (to the western audience) co-erced and obvious lies (?), and he would like to see the full video (?). it doesn’t seem like revisionist ploy :meow-tankie:
That's what they're telling you they meant now, though it's contradicted by their later comments where they suggest that the quotes in question suggest coercion. This is their brain recognizing anti-communist propaganda and then... actually ending up justifying it. You can see the various interactions about what it means to be on TV as a defector and their imaginative thinking on what the quote on eating well means.
I'm happy to cordially assume they didn't mean to do that and instead meant to say, "here's something that looks like propaganda playing up tropes" and then aggressively bumbled their way through responses, though.
Hmm, maybe it’s language barrier, that is how I initially read it: two comments are designed to seem coerced, and are obviously either untrue (cause she is minor tv thingy) or mistranslated or whatever context. Than some posts about definitions of tv celebrity, blah blah, and then you are calling each other names :sadness:
That's an interpretation I entertained initially until I read the deeper comments where they start speculating about starvation and being a regular on certain TV shows. It's also why I didn't reply top-level - the next chain down is where things start going off the rails. No language barrier, your reading of that first bit is valid.
Unfortunately they seem to prefer insults and belligerence as a smokescreen, something I'm happy to return because this isn't a debate it's a leftist forum where a modicum of anti-imperialism is the very least we can ask from obviously Anglo comrades.
Seems that there's a particular kind of conversation you'd rather have and it's best described as petty bullshit. Please take a little break and reconsider that going forward.
I am talking about how articles about this take quotes out of context to present a narrative
That's true, but Deutsche Welle is a German state media outlet which seeks to present the narrative "North Korea bad", so I doubt the context would make things seem worse (although I'd like to see the video too).
Edit: Oh, maybe that's what you've been trying to say all along lol. I see you edited your original comment for clarity.
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Reddit tier faux condescension has no place here. Kindly go fuck yourself until you've figured out how to talk to other people.
Now see, I read your comments before saying anything and no, you actually did lead with these insinuations and then doubled down on them. If you meant something else, that's on you for failing to communicate because no fewer than three separate people (100% of responses) have the same understanding as I do.
Are you capable of any self-crit whatsoever?
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Because there's no irony there.
You're avoiding very basic self-crit, here. In fact, you went out of your way to excise the preceding sentence to avoid the new bit of self-crit I highlighted.
Go have your shitty imperialist thought process elsewhere until you can handle conflict among comrades without becoming a huge lib stooping to misleading selective quotation.
Reread this thread, comrade, in 5 minutes from the start, you both got side tracked here a little bit
I've reread it twice, not sure what more I can get from it.
Comrade initial point was, as I’ve understood it, that quotes were deliberately pulled to seem (to the western audience) co-erced and obvious lies (?), and he would like to see the full video (?). it doesn’t seem like revisionist ploy :meow-tankie:
That's what they're telling you they meant now, though it's contradicted by their later comments where they suggest that the quotes in question suggest coercion. This is their brain recognizing anti-communist propaganda and then... actually ending up justifying it. You can see the various interactions about what it means to be on TV as a defector and their imaginative thinking on what the quote on eating well means.
I'm happy to cordially assume they didn't mean to do that and instead meant to say, "here's something that looks like propaganda playing up tropes" and then aggressively bumbled their way through responses, though.
Hmm, maybe it’s language barrier, that is how I initially read it: two comments are designed to seem coerced, and are obviously either untrue (cause she is minor tv thingy) or mistranslated or whatever context. Than some posts about definitions of tv celebrity, blah blah, and then you are calling each other names :sadness:
That's an interpretation I entertained initially until I read the deeper comments where they start speculating about starvation and being a regular on certain TV shows. It's also why I didn't reply top-level - the next chain down is where things start going off the rails. No language barrier, your reading of that first bit is valid.
Unfortunately they seem to prefer insults and belligerence as a smokescreen, something I'm happy to return because this isn't a debate it's a leftist forum where a modicum of anti-imperialism is the very least we can ask from obviously Anglo comrades.
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Seems that there's a particular kind of conversation you'd rather have and it's best described as petty bullshit. Please take a little break and reconsider that going forward.
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lol you've now told yourself a victim narrative. I hope you don't actually do anything like this irl, the orgs would suffer.
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Consensus is in: you need to touch grass, Anglo
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I guess we've reached the limit of your rhetoric
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I guess having the last word is important to you, even if it's expressions of Anglo insecurity, so you go right ahead buddy.
I look forward to your eventual self-crit.
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:PIGPOOPBALLS:
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That's true, but Deutsche Welle is a German state media outlet which seeks to present the narrative "North Korea bad", so I doubt the context would make things seem worse (although I'd like to see the video too).
Edit: Oh, maybe that's what you've been trying to say all along lol. I see you edited your original comment for clarity.