The American Southwest has horribly mismanaged it's fresh water supply. Tulare Lake, Hoover Dam, and Las Vegas are just some examples of the American Southwest's horrible fresh water management. My suggestion is does the rest of the United States and North America have a right to the fresh water contained in the Great Lakes? Would a pipeline from Chicago to Los Angeles or Mexico City be better for the environment than a desalination plant?
no
Why?
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What if we have to fuck up the great lakes to ensure nobody on the North American continent dies from dehydration?
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The environmental impact and shipping and farmland, etc in the Midwest would be destroyed. Then you would just have a similar problems there. How would you build a pipeline all the way across the US and over the Rockies? There is a reason that places need water brought in from places like Colorado, the other places either shouldn’t exist or have grown too large to adequately allow a decent standard of living.
I don't think any pipeline water should be used in agriculture. Also nonsense that we should depopulate any states, the standards of living must go down, it's preferable to death.
You’re right we should just base it off of rain. What were ancient Egyptians thinking digging irrigation? Why couldn’t they just grow based off of the naturally occurring weather.
Yeah how dare we depopulate the states we settled and colonized and give them back to the indigenous population that lived their for thousands of years? Not like there isn’t other places for them to live since the United States is overpopulated.
Death is a preferable alternative than communism.
Lets just kill all of California so we don't have to deal with resettling the settlers. They are less than human.
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Your username has exterminator in it lol
Gammons must be exterminated no?
The amount of water usage for personal use is a tiny fraction of the water usage in those states, and there is still far more than enough water in those states to surpass all of the personal use for as much water as you can drink, as many showers as you can take, and as many loads of low-efficiency machine laundry you could do. Let's just use California as an example. No more than about 11% of the water usage is "urban uses" which covers all the water you use in daily life plus all industrial use. Between 30 and 50 percent goes to agriculture (more than half of which is exported) and about a third of the overall water use is Pistachios, Almonds, and Alfalfa.
Alfalfa's issue is not that it's a water-inefficient plant, it's actually very water efficient, but that it's borderline useless for anything other than feeding to livestock. There are lots of issues with animal agriculture, but arguably one of the most important ones here is that farmers in the US don't actually even feed their livestock alfalfa. They feed them grass, corn, bulk skittles, whatever's cheapest, and that's not alfalfa.
Pistachios are terribly inefficient for areas like California, but are super profitable. They're also a fairly significant driver behind the "war with Iran" lobby, as Iran is the other main top producer of Pistachios (and also their native area, along with Afghanistan.) They grow in areas that have no freezes, need low humidity, and a lot of water, so they can primarily only be grown in irrigated areas which works great when you're right between the ocean and a massive freshwater(ish) sea like the Caspian with twice the combined volume of the Great Lakes and have a population of about 3 million like the Kerman Province in Iran where most pistachios are grown. It doesn't work as well when you're also trying to grow a shitton of other crops and also have a population of 40 million (6 million of which are in the growing area and competing for water) going after the same water source.
Almonds are a nightmare, and those grown in California use more water than all non-agricultural water use in California and Nevada combined.
I live a few hundred miles from the great lakes but all of the large storms I get come from there. If the great lakes lose a large quantity of water hundreds, if not thousands, of square miles will have their weather fucked up. The consequences would likely be devastating.
what about getting cali kulaks to switch to dryland crops instead of uh terraforming half a continent
You could also bring back Japanese farming techniques that were disrupted by the Internment Camps that were hundreds of magnitude more productive and conserved water a lot better.
I would like to read more about sustainable japanese american farming techniques. I know that internment camps was also a huge land grab.
https://www.sunset.com/home-garden/brief-history-of-japanese-american-farmers-in-the-west
https://www.itsyozine.com/posts/hidden-ecologists
Terraforming sounds cool actually.