I believe that due to the inherent contradictions of capitalism a revolution is inevitable, and necessary, but it's still not something that is easily palatable. Revolution is certainly romanticized, yet I still question every day whether or not I would be willing to die for my beliefs. My question to my fellow comrades is do you think non-violent form of revolution is possible, or will the state and reactionaries always crack down? I know that in the past those with power and prestige have been reluctant to give it up.
To be pedantic, but the civil war, and the genocidal war against indigenous Americans. And we can question the various things the US had going for it that led to those victories, but at that point, how can we assign victory to any war by any force, and I'm already doing that by leaving out the war of 1812 and some other ones. Granted the US army hasn't won large series of battles (though it hasn't fought many battles like that since Korea either) that ended in enemy surrender since world war 2 (though there hasn't been a war within the US since the end of the native american wars, so that's a mixed sign.
Pedantic is good. ‘America always loses wars’ is one of those things that’s funny because it’s pretty true, but also couldn’t possibly be wholly true.
You’ve a good point about ‘no war on american soil’. I genuinely fear the american response if there’s ever a war on american soil. I mean, look at how people responded to 9/11. On the global scale, not the hugest thing; more americans were dying every day of covid than died there. But the response was... well, on a global scale.
Imagine if they got properly invaded, right? It’s a nation of, largely, hobbyist soldiers. Everyone’s armed to the teeth, looking for a fight, and extremely fragile. It would be explosive, fast, and very bloody, I fear.
Also, it’s not terribly fair to frame america as having been particularly helpful in WWII imo, which I know is a tired line haha. But, really, it’s like that douchebag in smash bros who turtles all game, only to come in with fresh legs and full stocks, and sweep people at the end, and then claim responsibility and dominance hahaha it’s a bit rich, frankly :P ;)
True regarding WW2, of course there are battles we could pick and say look in this battle resources were this and strategy was that, and it demonstrates victory or whatever, but again it's kinda pointless to debate war like that at point. I think it's unlikely there will be large scale war within the country no matter what, like if there's a revolution in the US either via some collapse of the country or democratic party collapse etc. I think it will be extremely quick. I think it's more likely that happens and sections of the country that resist balkanize, though who knows it could be nationwide or worldwide at that point.
Ya, I think I agree. At a certain point, I think that people, especially in rich places, are... moving beyond war? Which feels absurd to say about america, but I think makes a kind of sense.
As ideas like Human Rights become increasingly entrenched in culture, and as people continue to become, generally, less violent and more... content? I think we’ll see a much lower tolerance for total war. If some states seceded, I don’t think we’d see Civil War II: Baby Come Backaloo. Even as unlikely as seccession is at this point, I think it’s even less likely that it would come as war, if it did.