I thought this was a good read and struck the right balance, but would be curious to hear others thoughts on it!

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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    Lib highlights

    Meanwhile, needless to say, freedom, democracy, and human rights in China have not expanded. They have been severely curtailed as China has moved in a more authoritarian direction, and China has become increasingly aggressive on the global stage.

    Hand wringing about "democracy" in China, despite Chinese folks believing their country is democratic far more than Americans believe the same about the US.

    The Chinese government is surely guilty of many policies and practices that I oppose and that all Americans should oppose: the theft of technology, the suppression of workers’ rights and the press, the repression taking place in Tibet and Hong Kong, Beijing’s threatening behavior toward Taiwan, and the Chinese government’s atrocious policies toward the Uyghur people. The United States should also be concerned about China’s aggressive global ambitions.

    "Atrocious policies to the Uyghur people" like uhhh building more mosques and poverty reduction programs OK bud. Not even going to address the other stuff.

    Americans must not be naive about China’s repression, disregard for human rights, and global ambitions.

    The only "global ambitions" China has is to not get blown up by the US and build enough trade infrastructure around Eurasia and Africa to absorb their tremendous amounts of goods for sale.

    Ultimately it's expected since its Bernie and I wasn't thinking he'd say anything else, the article is fine he's just clearly still a lib. I agree with Jack here.

    • JackingIt [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Thanks for this response! Very very helpful.

      By the way, do you have a link to any source to backup:

      despite Chinese folks believing their country is democratic far more than Americans believe the same about the US.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        The study he's probably talking about.

        73% of Chinese people surveyed said "my country is Democratic", while only 49% of Americans said the same. This next part was the most surprising to me: 84% of Chinese people agreed with the phrase "democracy is important", while only 73% of Americans did the same.

      • s0ykaf [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree