• Corbyn [none/use name]
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    that there is a policy of “cultural erasure”

    But I would argue there is. Someone here posted this (to prove that there is nothing wrong with it), which clearly states that the intention is to re-educate them and that they are not allowed to leave or contact others (it informs students where they parents were disappeared to). They say that their ideologies are like a "disease" that the government has to cure, even if they don't feel "sick". Considering this targets people based on their ethnic group and separates families, to the extend that children are educated away from their family, preparing the next generation to be more pro-government and to speak Chinese, this is very clearly cultural erasure to me. Even if that wouldn't be the goal, this is still an incredible crime that should not be apologised.

    “a million imprisoned”

    That is what all estimates suggest. Not necessarily at once. Do you have any more reliable numbers?

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        What’s the other option? Don’t teach them the main language and cultural norms of the society they’re going to be living in for most of their lives

        You can find ways to do this without forcing them assimilate by separating families and putting people in re-education camps.

        Perhaps they go too far into the process, but learning to speak Chinese isn’t erasing anyone’s culture

        They are defining muslim separatists as terrorists, and anyone in contact with them as potentially indoctrinated with extremist ideologies. We both know how vague these definitions always are and how easily it is exploited to target whoever you want. The Chinese government is presenting themselves as the saviours of the people, freeing them from the evil "terrorist indoctrination" without ever defining what this actually means, comparing it to disease that they need treatment for (inside their camps) until they are "cured" and are allowed to go home and talk to their families again. Considering how many people are apparently affected by this "disease", it will result in a very different life in their communities, and as a result alter or (partly) erase their culture. The Chinese government never liked religions as they lead to their member being committed to their god(s) over the government.

        There was a BBC doc that tried to prove this and when they went in for a surprise visit, showed that the students were allowed to leave on the weekends so that claim is fictional.

        Why are they handing out FAQs to students (living outside of Xinjiang) that explain where their parents are and under which conditions they will eventually be released? Is the woman (and her children) in the John Oliver video lying?

        Q: “When will my family members be released?” (note: to be precise, the question asks when they can “graduate school”)

        Answer: Once they complete all the necessary coursework while abiding by school rules. Meanwhile, the students whose family members are attending school should cooperate with the education process by following the law themselves, not spreading rumors, and participating in “collective activities” — which will facilitate their family members’ release.

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      Imma be real and say I simply don't have the time for this (I wish I did tho), but I felt I should respond to your initial posed question out of good faith as I am the detestable OP. I hereby summon the corpse of Mao to fight you for trial by combat, may Chapo have mercy on your soul.

      • Corbyn [none/use name]
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        I would show Mao how their country is led and Xi Jinping would pull all aggro.