• GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    It's so weird to me though, the absence of invaders on the border. Like, every other imperial collapse sees more and more daring raids being committed against the dying empire, more territory being ceded with every year. But we aren't seeing that. America has so thoroughly destroyed all competition to the point that it is just eating itself inside out. The closest we see to that is the belt and road, but it feels wrong to call that a conquest or session of territory.

    • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      simple geography: the USA is not particularly invadable. If it happens it'll be from the south, maybe in a decade or two, and I hope it's a united global south that does it and not some kind of cartel ISIS of our own indirect and direct creation

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        Let me be a little more clear. :england-cool: :israel-cool: :japan-cool:

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      We have own barbarians, they don't need to come from across a border. The barbarism is coming from inside the house

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Like, every other imperial collapse sees more and more daring raids being committed against the dying empire, more territory being ceded with every year. But we aren’t seeing that.

      I don't know, man. Look at Colonial Pipeline. Look at the BLM protest marches against the police. Or the collapse of our imperial redoubts in places like Afghanistan and Hong Kong and various corners of Latin America. There was that story any the US border wall being sold for scrape in Mexico. There's the sporadic shootings at military bases. There's the increasing lawlessness of private businesses, up to and including the sponsorship of the Jan 6th riots.

      There are a lot of instances in which the imperial state is deteriorating, even if it doesn't involve Russia reclaiming Alaska or Mexico chewing up San Jose.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        That's a fair point. I'm focusing too much on obvious places and not on the real places of imperialism.