"y'know ... China actually bad though"

    • Tomboys_are_Cute [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      The word was bonus points, which isn't to say its better or worse. I agree with Zifnab25 that its fair to say that the nature and history of policing in China is different enough to question an uncritical ACAB for their police, Chinese police didn't grow from Slave Patrols.

      I also want to talk about how you said what you said. It is cool that Cuba has "resisted corporate capitalist imperialism," so has China. The use of the word "corporate" implies all Capitalism isn't corporate, and "capitalist imperialism" implies there are non-capitalist (or non-young/pre-capitalist) empires.

      Since we're talking China, "if they don't turn to a imperialist police state model" also feels out of place, this would imply China is imperialist, which it isn't. It would also imply China is a police state, which, maybe? Are there strict limitations on things that could create economic disruptions? Yes. Is that a limitation on the negative freedoms we have in the West? Yes. So what? Through the removal of some negative freedoms you gain positive freedoms like a young retirement age, a decent pension, and freedom from absolute poverty. If that is in a country that uses its surplus to participate in economic development in good faith then I fail to see how it is an imperialist police state.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      it’s fine to think about shit theoretically, but in practice, it just isn’t what it should be or could be.

      I agree