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    • mathemachristian [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      He took a dive

      Martin Luther 1523:

      If I had been a Jew and had seen such dolts and blockheads govern and teach the Christian faith, I would sooner have become a hog than a Christian. They have dealt with the Jews as if they were dogs rather than human beings; they have done little else than deride them and seize their property.

      from "That Jesus was born a Jew"

      Martin Luther 1543:

      On the Jews and Their Lies

      from "On the Jews and Their Lies"

      • huf [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        didnt he expect the jews to convert en-masse now that he'd finally discovered TRUE™ christianity? as if jews were jews just cos they didnt like the silly frocks of the catholic church...

        • mathemachristian [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Yup. He legit thought bis arguments were so persuasive and iron-clad the only people who would not be swayed didnt properly understand them

      • impiri@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        “It’s okay to challenge the power structures that govern the course of your life! NO NOT LIKE THAT”

    • blight [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Well, he founded protestantism. Gotta be up there with some of the worst

      • mathemachristian [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Well there is Anglican protestantism which came before and Calvinism (where the whole "Protestant work ethic" comes from) came after Luther. The man has a lot of brainworms for sure but reforming Christianity as an individual affair between god and person and not a public affair between church and person led to the improvement of peoples lives.

        But in the end he is a German philosopher so yeah massively racist.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          The Lollards certainly influenced Low Church Anglicans after the fact, but It's hard to square much of the ideology with what became Anglican Protestantism, and the movement was long dead by the time Luther or the English Reformation came round. Certainly Luther would not have been a fan of a completely unheirarchical clergy and lay church.

        • Dolores [love/loves]
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          1 year ago

          all the pre-protestant heresies besides the bohemians were effectively stamped out and had little intellectual effect on the main lines of protestantism, which are all descendants of Luther in varying capacities. after White Mountain the czechs got heavily counter-reformed, catholics still being the dominant christians there.

          so yes i want to blame him and will

    • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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      1 year ago

      Every single criticism he made of the catholic church is objectively true and correct, but he personally sucked.

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Got increasingly unhinged and was a trad guy. Can't deny that he was a powerful poster though.

      • Magician [he/him, they/them]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        I thought that was him, but I wasn't sure how much of my understanding of that was outdated. Thanks!

    • Fishroot [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Pretty bad especially when proto-protestantism is not even that new. Yet he managed to make it as bad if not worst than his predecessors

      Also he created German Nationalism, which is a crime against nature