I enjoy the little ritual, and the ability to change up the ritual for slightly better results. Grind my beans, turn on the gooseneck, get the pour over ready, scale everything out.
Forces me to be patient in the mornings and have a little time for just this one thing.
Nestle isn't a very good company, and as much as there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, buying beans from small coffee co-ops is an ok way to support people in the global south.
Or at least better than supporting Nestle
Who said Nestle? There's tons of decent spray dried coffee out there. I drink Cephei and it's great.
Well that's a good option then, it looks like a solid company. I know there is fancy instant coffee out there, I've just never had it.
I think in Asia, with the packets of instant coffee, 3-in-1, etc, there is more variety in instant coffee, but worldwide Nestle has a 30-50% market share, depending on the report you read. With Unilever, kraft, Starbucks and other giants picking most of the rest.
It's just a weird take immediately jumping to the conclusion that OP must be drinking Nestle.
They really do have that much market dominance in Europe, Nespresso packets are fucking everywhere.
I find that hard to believe, Europeans know what good coffee tastes like. Mass market garbage? Doubtful.
Never underestimate the power of convenience. Nestle has “3 in 1” packets that make instant lattes. They’re garbage, but decent if you’re in a hurry / don’t have the equipment to make a latte at home.
I mean, not really weird. They have such market dominance in lots of areas that it's not easy to find alternatives for instant.
Learn to live without coffee. You don't wanna be dependent on it now because in a few decades when the global supply chain collapses (or we do socialism and move to a sustainable mode of production), coffee will become prohibitively expensive.
You don’t wanna be dependent on it now because in a few decades when the global supply chain collapses
I don't see why everyone is up in arms about this. I'm a huge coffee addict and I'd miss it if I couldn't get it anymore, but so what about a few decades from now? The withdrawl only lasts a couple days and then you're basically at your baseline existence again. You don't need to prepare 20 years in advance to stop drinking it.
Seriously. When the zapatista coffee is gone, I’ll stop drinking it.
Comrade, I am a bean fiend. I'm trying to warn people off before I have my 2nd cup of joe before noon.
Well I mean, if you dig it you dig it. At the very least instant coffee tends to all taste the same - if you go for beans you're opening yourself up to like infinitely more options if you get bored or want to try something new. Also coffee machines are a psyop, the cheap and cheerful option is something like a plastic pour-over filter cone that just sits on your mug, or one with a carafe if you'll want more than one cup.
But like, that's assuming you're treating coffee like any other drink and are ok with having a slight build time. If you're just looking for a jolt of morning brown ASAP and don't really give a shit then why bother messing with what's working.
For sure, Aeropress is actually my go-to if I'm just making coffee for myself - I sort of get an ironic kick out of how over-engineered and plastic it is, it's the most American shit ever - but figured pour overs are an easier sell for a lot of people. OP should take note though.
lmao Aerobie isn't hiding they used to make cheap frisbee toys before moving onto the Aeropress. It's just so funny to me that a pair of plastic tubes opened up a niche among french and italian brewers
Aeropress gang, such an incredible revelation to have coffee that isn't bitter or astringent in my home. I bought a foamer too and I have bitchin' lattes every morning.
A coffee maker makes “too much” coffee, which you fix by having “more coffee”
A coffee machine that doesn't use filters will be cheaper in the long run, and will create infinitely less waste. You also get more control over your coffee. So you get better coffee, lower costs, and are more environmentally friendly.
Plus you don't give money to fucking nestle
doesn’t use filters
I can't think of a single commercially available coffee maker which doesn't use filters. Plus, they're compostable and you can buy ones made from unbleached and recycled fiber. If you mean "doesn't use terrible single-use plastic garbage pods" well now we're talking.
Lots of drip coffee makers have those reusable mesh filters
An espresso machine won't use any filter, just perforated steel plates that you can reuse infinitely. You can get a decent one for like 25$ nowadays.
At 25$ you're not getting anything new, but you can find decent espresso machines on local classifieds for that much.
Hmm maybe that's just regional then, I got a Breville Roma which is perfectly fine for 25$ after some negotiation, looking over the classifieds there's a delonghi veneto for 30$ and a krupps for 40, so maybe I just live in the right spot haha
Yeah I would imagine, I don't love either of those but like if you're coming from instant coffee it's a huge step up lol
Idk why we should convince you. If you're happy, you're happy. There are plenty of coffee shops if you want to try decent drip coffee. I'm sure you've had some at some point.
instant coffee is so fucking awful, even when I drank nothing but instant coffee, I thought instant coffee was an awful, thoroughly unenjoyable experience. it's lumpy, bitter, has a weird redness to it, all around unpleasant to look, feel and taste. I used to fill the cup to the brim with sucralose and coffeemate to make it bearable, tbh it just tasted like pancakes made liquid.
As a plant person... can I get some of that 8 months of growing season?
Granted, I did grow some ginger last year which shouldn't work here and I harvested it as a sort of juvenile ginger. It was pretty dang smelly and tasty.
If you just want the chemical response you'd do cheaper with generic caffeine powder precisely measured and poured into water. Way cheaper, cost effective, and the taste is superior. You can also flavor this water any way you want.
If you want actual coffee, stop buying coffee flavored sawdust and meth crystals and start crushing beans and using a french press.
