• EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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      3 years ago

      I understand fully how things need to be built in stages. There are transitional and transitory stages moving from agricultural to industrial, from capitalism to socialism to communism. You can't just slap the go button and create a utopia. I know that the party has power and exercises power to make progressive changes quickly, material conditions permitting. I also understand that it's important to keep dickbag capitalists around on a tight leash because they're useful idiots better kept tied down instead of allowing them to just become new gusanos in the US.

      My point is that, while I hope they do eventually move from where they are now over to actual real deal communism without class or money (or states, but that's another story), they aren't there yet and it's disingenuous to say that they are. I think as it stands, they have the best odds of getting there first out of everyone on the path, and knowing that communism is inevitable, it will happen eventually. I just hope we get to see it before the planet turns into a big duraflame log and lights on fire.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        My point is that, while I hope they do eventually move from where they are now over to actual real deal communism without class or money (or states, but that’s another story), they aren’t there yet and it’s disingenuous to say that they are. I think as it stands, they have the best odds of getting there first out of everyone on the path, and knowing that communism is inevitable, it will happen eventually. I just hope we get to see it before the planet turns into a big duraflame log and lights on fire.

        I find it odd that you say this and then say things like "they're not communist". When people call China communist they are referring to their ideology, not to whether or not it is currently in a communist economic stage of society. That has never existed and will never exist in our lifetimes, it's an odd thing to even say. Nobody makes the argument that China is currently in communism.

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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          3 years ago

          Nobody makes the argument that China is currently in communism.

          I have unfortunately had to deal with people that were insistent on the concept that China is in the endgame, completed, celebrating after the finish line, full communism phase. That's why I said what I said. I think some people just need to convince themselves of a win in order to not descend into doomerism. I just hope the CCP is able to maintain and accelerate the momentum necessary to actually get to that point. That's all I'd like to say on that. Thank you.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            They are very silly people who are incredibly rare occurrences in my experience.