Assuming that the left gets its shit together before Homo sapiens goes extinct.

My vote goes to either the USA or France. Especially because the Paris Commune already happened. “Smeagol did it once...he can do it again!” Paris seems to have been packed with rioters 24/7 for several years. Not so different maybe from the American Midwest. The ruling class is investing heavily in police in both countries. It’s afraid!

I know this seems partly delusional of me and that there is far more hope in the Global South unifying and then strangling the imperial core from the outside. But still, gun to your head, pick an imperial core country and explain how and why it will fall first. Marx, after all, predicted that socialism would come first to those places that had progressed along capitalist development the most. (Yes, you are invited to explain how wrong I am about this.) The USA falling to socialism would probably cause the rest of the planet to fall the same way.

edit: my choices seem embarrassing now, thank you for enlightening me comrades.

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    What are people's thoughts about Spain? Obviously there's the agitation in Catalonia and the Basque country, but I see a lot of reactionary sentiment from Spanish people

    • duderium [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Based on the comments thus far it seems like countries that are sort of on the peripheral core (Ireland, Italy, Spain, Portugal) have a lot of potential.

      • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Oh I suppose that's a better way to describe those countries. So what would count as Imperial Core? USA, France, UK, Germany?

        • jabrd [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It’s funny to see this definition shrinking, it means the empire is shrinking too. Italy used to be the core, but with a continued crisis of capital in the face of the falling rate of profit it’s stable position is falling out from under its feet. Italy, Spain, Portugal are becoming more akin to Greece than their N European peers. It’s shocking how rapidly that’s changing

          I mean just look at this map on the Wikipedia page for the topic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periphery_countries

          • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Gotta say I don't really understand that map at all. It seems to just measure "blue is the good countries, red is the bad countries". Like why is mexico on here but not like, idk turkey or something. It doesn't seem to give any real metric to qualify a country to be core or periphery.

            Also, on the topic of comparisons, Ireland is like... not a rich country. There are a lot of rich people here who tip the scales on the GDP numbers, but in real terms, the working class of Ireland aren't amazingly wealthy. Most people spend a huge amount of their income on insurance and rent. The country experienced a boom in the 90s, and was one of the hardest hit countries in 2008. The Irish economy is reliant on foreign companies. So I don't see how it's a core country.

        • duderium [he/him]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Most of us would probably agree on your definition there.

    • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      it's possible, but i would argue that a Euskadi-Galicia-Catalunya alliance would happen before all of Spain. There is just too much fash still in the government and in power. like other countries, so little of the prior government/power brokers were really ever ousted, and there are still so many people who support Franco/his ideas/right wing reactionary bull shit

      however, I imagine that if VOX pulls too much shit, it will actually push a lot of people toward more left wing tendecies.