• Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    11 months ago

    The US is not involved in this conflict

    Are you sure? What is exxonmobil again? Who has influence in the International Court of Justice?

    America is the one aggressing on Venezuela by using their puppet government in Guyana to encircle them and take the disputed territory unilaterally.

      • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 months ago

        Why does that matter? Should countries just lay down and let America strangle them "non-militarily/indirectly" until they're dead?

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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          11 months ago

          Another reason I'm not happy about this is I'm not confident Venezuela can win this, if it gets embroiled in this conflict it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire cuz now they can just snuff out Venezuela instead of trying to chip away at them via more subtle means. That's why, even if I don't agree with Maduro's decision here, I would still oppose US involvement of any kind.

          • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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            11 months ago

            I’m not confident Venezuela can win this

            Guyana has no military.

            it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire

            So your alternative is to let them win because they might win if Venezuela reacts? Makes no sense.

          • porcupine@lemmygrad.ml
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            11 months ago

            this conflict it could just as easily end up a win for the US Empire cuz now they can just snuff out Venezuela instead of trying to chip away at them

            I'm not accusing you of this, but this is exactly the line of reasoning that every Trot and left liberal I know used to explain why we all needed to "condemn Hamas". The unstated assumption here is that confronting the empire can only result in a worse outcome for the periphery, and so we must oppose any material resistance by the periphery for their own good.

            The only two conclusions to this line of thinking are:

            • That there is no possibility of things improving for the periphery, and so the best they can hope for is to preserve the status quo indefinitely.
            • That the only effective means of improving the material conditions of the periphery is by waging some kind of purely moral nonviolent struggle through speech and symbolic gestures.

            Both of these are just liberalism.