So far my best bets have been talking about the Demographic Transition Model - i.e, as wealth goes up, birth rates decline, so uplift the poor and we'll be fine.

I also say that we have enough resources to go around if we stop allowing 1 man to use the resources of 100.

Theres also people with mad conspiracies that the government is trying to decrease birth rates by promoting LGBT stuff. To that I've said I also say that the current system of capitalism is all about growth and making money, and more people = more money. They don't want to thin us down.

What else can I say? It seems to be a very common belief.

  • genocidetherich [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Necessary is subjective, this is why we need a communist party to decide things for us. Have faith in communism friend.

    • sam5673 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      It's not that subjective everyone for example knows on some level that food is important in a way that random pieces of plastic aren't

      • genocidetherich [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Certainly everyone can survive without meat, but no people are willing to kill to be carnivores.

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yes, necessary is subjective. I am fully for a planned, efficient economy with necessary production. All I'm saying is it is meaningless to say 70% of emissions come from corporations, without differentiating what is being produced by corporations that are doing that emitting. Like of course corporations do the majority of emissions, we live under capitalism. It is a statistic that does not provide any insight.

        • OgdenTO [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It's fine if whoever you're talking to doesnt ask any follow up questions or think too hard about it.

          I guess I don't see what the statistic is saying. What is it supposed to suggest? What is included in the non-corporation emission? For me it's a number that doesn't give insight if I continue to think about it.