On the one hand, we're seeing the consent manufactury kick into overdrive and a lot of state department goblins seem to be absolutely itching for a fresh round of meddling. Cuba as a client state would open the door to all manner of renewed imperial nightmares in the carribean and South America.

On the other hand, it feels like most people's reception of the situation outside of dedicated chuds and Floridians (but I repeat myself) is muted, and I've already seen a few small anti-intervention protests pop up. After two decades of war, with a domestic civil society whose coherency is hanging by a thread and a global presence that is increasingly challenged, I feel like a flubbed regime change effort there would be the true beginning of the end for the U.S.' empire.

If this is a dumb-dumb take, please don't hesitate to tell me so.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I think this will probably fail, but I also think there won't be any "rock" that American Empire breaks itself on. That would be too cathartic.

    American Empire will just lose credibility with one nation at a time, with a few of the more strongly-attached puppets clinging to belief in it right up until the end, while the nations who realize the reality of the American paper tiger will slowly poke their heads out and take actions we don't like that are in their own self interest (I'm here for more nationalized industries in the third world). There will be a day when America isn't the top GDP anymore, but there won't be a day when America suddenly stops being the preeminent world power - instead there will just be a period where we look around and realize that we haven't been that for a while.

    And then we'll get into a Falkland Islands-style war. They'll loop footage of F-35s launching off a Supercarrier to bomb the US Virgin Islands set to patriotic music for a hundred years before this ship finally sinks, so get ready for that.

    • Ploumeister [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah it’s most likely going to be the same as when Britain fell off as a world leader

      • Skysthelimit [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        That was actually a good thing for the British people. They stopped dying in foreign wars that never benefited them, and the government was forced to work on internal development instead.

        America was never meant to be a world leader. We've done an awful job at it. Better to leave the job to those better qualified. If the US government was cut off from their wonderfully stimulating endless foreign wars, the result can only be positive for Americans.

    • D3FNC [any]
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      3 years ago

      You realize we lost top GDP status to China like half a decade ago, right? It didn't really make the news.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        We're still about 6 trillion dollars ahead of them overall, China crossed us on GDP (PPP) which is an adjusted measurement that takes into account relative purchasing power.