Linked the thread because the comments deserve to be dunked on.
A lot of the same people (wrongly) claiming Corbyn was going to do a purge any minute are of course strongly backing this.
Linked the thread because the comments deserve to be dunked on.
A lot of the same people (wrongly) claiming Corbyn was going to do a purge any minute are of course strongly backing this.
Whats the politics of that thread? Labour should be more like the tories to win. But if the point is not to have different policy, why is it important to defeat the tories? Arent you admitting to being useless?
the point is to have the same ghoulish neoliberal policies enacted by people that look more respectable when they're doing it
when obviously cruel policies are enacted by corrupt oafs the libs can't pull their "well it's actually nuanced and complicated" and they hate when they can't do that
I don't think people like blairites, democrats or succdems are knowingly part of some big conspiracy to keep the world shitty. Objectively they are but they have completely bought into the TINA message of bourgeois propaganda and believe that anything but neoliberal austerity will result in disaster.
Pair that with their megalomaniacal sense of being entitled to the unquestioning support of anyone to the left of Genghis Khan and you get some of the worst people in existence.
oh for sure, not implying they're doing it deliberately, see "kids in cages" vs "migrant overflow facilities"
The point is that the team in red jerseys should win and the team in blue jerseys should lose.
And to do that they do politics as marketing research, they interview focus groups and finds out most people likes the Tories. It then follows that to gain market shares they have to be more Tori-like.
the neolib side of labour have always (since '97 at least) taken the stance that the british public are simply more right wing than us lefties would like to believe, thus it is only possible to be elected by being sufficiently right wing.
they cling to this idea so dearly, ignoring the fact that there were extenuating circumstances surrounding new labour's success (ample media support e.g. the s*n; collapse of conservative's establishment and popular support due to pro-eu stance etc.), that when they get their way and it still doesn't work out (e.g. losing the election despite forcing corbyn to concede to a brexit redo that nobody wanted, or starmer's perpetual unpopularity) they immediately start talking about how racist the common unwashed are and that we must become blue labour and focus on immigration and social conservatism.
when that inevitably fails, they'll probably start going on about how we must become the fascist labour party in order to appeal to the sensibilities of the average brit.