• IlIlIlIlIlIlIl [any]
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    3 years ago

    We’re ten minutes from going under water.

    The 1st class passengers are paying crewmembers to strip the copper wiring out of the walls on their way to their lifeboats.

    They are also taking completely empty lifeboats with them, because letting a poor into the extra lifeboats would depreciate their resale value.

    The 2nd class passengers are knee-deep in water, but refuse to the believe the ship is sinking because the band is still playing, and White Star Line would never leave a paying customer behind.

    And the 3rd class passengers are neck-deep in water if they’re not already dead.

    But hey, at least the new Captain likes ice cream and isn’t a dang cheeto, am I right?

    - @rubpoll https://hexbear.net/post/128566/comment/1483159

    Just thought this comment was relevant here.

  • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I don't quite understand the mechanics of a country's rights over multinationals. Could Biden, in theory, nationalize Pfizer and Moderna tomorrow and end this nonsense? Like they're American companies right?

    I guess I'm just concerned about shifting blame to scapegoat countries. Why does it matter what Germany says?

    • kristina [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      i mean, pfizer and moderna would still exist, just they wouldnt have any more factories and stuff in the usa which means germany would get angsty and maybe try to retaliate

      • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        So nationalizing a multinational only gets you their factories, not their IP?

        • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          IP, like all other private property "rights", only exist so long as the state says it does. If you have a copy of the formulas (vaccines have formulas, right? Or is it more just a combination of steps on how to make the mRNA/weakened virus?) you have the IP, let the rest of the international community whine about IP infringement all they want while you pump out cheap vaccines for all.

          • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I'm honestly pretty ignorant about this stuff which is why I'm asking - are the steps & specific mRNA sequence publically known, and the only thing stopping countries from making them (besides capital restraints) is fear of legal or other retaliation?

            • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              As I understand it, the general steps and procedures are known (because they're patented), but enough of the 'secret sauce' is protected to avoid others simply copying it. You would likely need the in-house instructions to replicate it, as well as likely some proprietary tech they've built.

              • kristina [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                all details are patented and shared with the government, they thoroughly map out whats going on so that if anyone replicates the process they can destroy them. some parts obviously arent forward facing to avoid people copying patents, depending on the complexity of the invention. sometimes you can detail the entire invention and its no biggy because you didnt detail the specific tools you used.

                source: i used to look at estradiol patents to see if i could replicate estrogen if society collapsed lol

  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    But the real problem is Russia, China, Cuba and their darn vaccine diplomacy!