• Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    Nier fans are the absolute worst at describing what is good about Yoko Taro, you can't change my mind.

    Edit: I can remember how when the FFXIV crossover raid with Yoko Taro was announced people were yelling at the top of their lungs "YOOO DUDE YOKO TARO IS SUCH A FUCKING MADMAN HE'S GONNA MAKE THINGS SO FUCKING WEIRD AND FUNNY DUUUDE" and now the almost unanimous opinion is that the crossover was a mediocre bunch of nostalgia references with a weak ass story lol.

    The only thing that was even weird about it was a literal bug that spawned a dragon NPC from one of the class quests that yelled some stuff about its lover that people thought was a 4d chess reference to Drakengard, but no it was just a bizarre bug. Drakengard gets like a single reference but its just the wacky ending E in Tokyo again as if thats the only thing anyone wants to remember about Drakengard.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      I just liked how Nier incorporated multiple styles of gameplay within the JRPG setting.

      Little bit of action adventure. Little bit of 2D shooter. Little bit of 2D fighting game. Etc.

      The story was... fine, but still kinda predictable. The mechanics were novel, but a little confusing. The dialogue was alright. If you want to play a JRPG, you can do a lot worse.

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      3 months ago

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          • Oso_Rojo [he/him, they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Leave it to g*mers to sympathize with a genocidal maniac. He’s basically the definition of an unreliable narrator too, his utopia can’t have been that great if they allowed the original calamity and Hydaelyn’s summoning to happen.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        The most recent retrospectives I have seen is that they are kinda opposite in how their content is received, people love the SB gameplay content but despise the story, while ShBs story is almost overpraised by the standards of even people who like it but the gameplay content around it in the expansion have people dissapointed, particularly with job balances.

    • mittens [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah, definitely people tend to misrepresent Yoko Taro. I think dude has a knack for presenting thoughtful narratives in video game form, but he isn't like lol im gonna troll u by making bad video game, he is just kinda shitty at game design. His big break came after his ideas were better represented when a third party designed Automata's core mechanics.

      That being said, Yoko Taro is a very cynical dude and I dig that.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah I think he absolutely has some cool ideas but sometimes struggles to put them into full effective practice.

        Also even though I partially hate his worldbuilding style it is a unique and interesting approach, even if it means his fans get too obsessed with minutiae of how timelines interact and end up ignoring what I think is his most interesting game(Drakengard) except for a single ending and memes about the suicidal pedo character.