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  • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    :tromp: No, YOU'RE speculation!

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    Seriously though, it's okay to speculate and connect dots. It's how literally all investigations are done.

    The difference between rational speculation and deranged or paranoid speculation is that the latter type ignores contravening facts and evidence. In other words, it's okay to continue to speculate as long as your hypothesis hasn't yet been falsified.

    So think critically about it. What is it that makes this theory "wild"? Is it just because of the scope of the lie, or is there evidence that rules it out? If so, state what that evidence is rather than laughing at the people trying to look into this. :meow-hug:

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I did further down, mainly just that I don't see why they'd do a risky and highly experimental procedure on the president.

      And if they did have a treatment that worked, they would have been very public about it from day one. The last thing they wanted to do was lockdown. If they had a treatment they could point to, they would have pointed to it.

      Other than that, yeah I basically agree. Especially because the end result of it being a weaponized virus, an accidental leak, or a natural disease are all the same. The US used this pandemic as a political cudgel against the entire world.

      • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Okay, thanks for sharing your reasoning.

        I think the theory that Trump received some kind of experimental vaccine is ancillary to the larger theory about a US lab leak and the vaping illness. The rest of the theory doesn't hinge on it at all.

        If there was a treatment though, we have no way of knowing how risky or experimental it actually was. They could have been working on this stuff for a long time, and all of that research would be classified. I've seen credible speculation that SARS2 is actually an attenuated derivative of the SARS virus intended for use in the creation of a SARS vaccine.

        If they had pointed to the experimental vaccine as soon as COVID struck the US, that would have revealed America's role in the creation of the virus.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          That's the one thing that hinges on the weakest evidence and has the greatest implications. Namely that there was something they could have done about it, but didn't for some reason.

          The rest is believable, and even if it's not true, Fort Derrick and the 200 other bio weapon labs the us runs absolutely need to be put in the spotlight and investigated then shut down.

          If you lead with the Trump getting an experimental therapy that made him immune, you'll lose a lot of people right away though. So stick to what we know which is that the US has an insane number of bio weapons research facilities all around the world, and one of them was in close proximity to an unknown flu outbreak right before covid and was promptly shut down.