Your puny copyright won't stop me from scouring Marx and Engels' letters to each other for any shred of evidence that they were more than friends

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Shit like this is what the deep web should be for, disseminating pirated content and leftist agitation, but instead it's bitcoin scams and trafficked porn

    • TheCaconym [any]
      cake
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      3 years ago

      Thus far the clearnet handles that need fine - see libgen. I suspect if it ever got to a point where it didn't, they or others with the data would switch to an onion website almost immediately.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    How does someone own the copyright for letters that were written over a century ago?

    • RootVegetable [they/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      They own the copyright to the translation and since no one's had a strong urge to translate every single letter over again without applying their own copyright, marxists.org has to submit to their wishes (which the mirror entirely subverts lol)

        • VolcelPolice [any]
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          3 years ago

          Good work on shutting down the horniness here comrade, you did the right thing calling us in.

          Apologies for our earlier mistrust of you, we should have known you were an upstanding volcel citizen

          :volcel-judge:

        • Haedda [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          I don't think there's really evidence... But they were such close friends through all their life, Engels kept supporting Marx financially and pulling him out of trouble, it's just so sweet that it's nice to imagine they were secretly boyfriends... That's how I look at it 😊

          • sam5673 [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            On the other hand this kind of thinking is a large part of why young boys associate having close male friends with being gay.

            Can't a guy just have close friends them just being very platonically close with no sexual element doesn't make it less sweet

            • Haedda [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              I know but remember those were different times, two men couldn't just openly be together. There definitely were a lot of guys who presented to the world as friends but were secretly more. I'm not saying it was like that with those two, but this is just a thing I like to imagine.

              • sam5673 [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                they weren't just two guys they were Marx and Engels the respectability ship had pretty much sailed

                • Haedda [she/her]
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                  3 years ago

                  Idk, I feel even in their social circles people wouldn't have liked it. Besides... I'm not making a claim it was definitely true in real life, I just like to ship it, you know? Like, we'll probably never find out with 100% certainty, how it was with them, but that's okay, just... let me dream 😅

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Probably not true, they were both pretty devoted to their respective wives, though Marx probably had at least one affair.

          It is fun to imagine though.

  • VeganVelveeta [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    :ritzy-marx: “who needs they proletussy ate?”

    :blushing-engels: ”omg me”

    :wtf-am-i-reading: :heart-sickle:

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Wayback Machine still has all of the stuff that was removed. That's why those URLs are still up

  • Haedda [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I relate to OP so much... My boys were 100% in love ❤️❤️❤️ :wtf-am-i-reading:

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I'm more interested in Jenny Marx's lesbian adventures with...I dunno...Lizzie Burns? Lady Anne Blunt?

    Or Engles and Willich being gay comrades in arms in 1848 (if I recall, Engles refused to leave Willich's side, and Willich refused to retreat until his entire command had escaped over the border.)