• ImSoOCD [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The original question that spawned this thread was not “why do libs like a show like that?” It was “why would you create a show like that?” I’m a huge fan of Hamilton (I’ve somehow managed to ignore its horrendous politics) and can answer this question.

    Lin Manuel Miranda is a second generation immigrant who spent a month out of every year in Puerto Rico as a child. His parents are both first generation, a psychiatrist and a lawyer who consults for the Democratic Party. So he very much grew up upper middle class in an immigrant household. In parts of the “making of” book for Hamilton, he comments on the conversation Hamilton and Burr have about a street getting renamed after someone. Manuel remarks about how he overheard conversations like this about legacy from his father. This is the world he grew up in. People who knew that history books would contain the names of their families.

    So you have a Latino kid who is essentially living the American Dream, but he’s brown and doesn’t see himself reflected in America’s creation myths (weird, that). He reads a biography of founding father Alexander Hamilton (as one does) and this biography happens to paint Hamilton in a very favorable light. So much so that Miranda writes an entire arc about Hamilton’s crusade against slavery that was cut for time but still has some remnants in the show. I think Miranda related to this guy who was kind of in between two worlds and wanted to draw the parallels.

    And frankly it was very funny to watch chuds melt down over the show refusing to cast any white people so they made the on white role the most insufferable and incompetent guy in the entire play who gets shot within minutes.

    I think it really does say a lot that Lin Manuel got picked up by the Obama administration for that poetry night too. Just in case anyone thought this musical couldn’t get any more lib, here’s a remix of George Washington’s farewell song with his final letter read by Obama

    • Tyreup [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Not included in your comment: Reckoning with your boy LMM's plundering of Puerto Rico after the hurricane. PROMESA as well as being one of the cultural agents working to replace its industries with global corporations (replacing independent coffee producers with Starbucks vertically integrated ones, etc.)

      • Rem [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        PROMESA as well as being one of the cultural agents working to replace its industries with global corporations

        Sorry could u explain further? Lin Manuel Miranda is a gentrifier?

        • Vncredleader
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          3 years ago

          https://twitter.com/lxzdanelly/status/1279239425365549056

        • Tyreup [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Much worse.

          https://remezcla.com/features/culture/lin-manuel-miranda-hamilton-in-puerto-rico-controversy/

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I've never seen Hamilton but I have seen Moana, and Miranda might be a lib but he's a pretty damn good songwriter, I'll give him that.

      • redthebaron [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        the main problem with hamilton as a musical is that he is a good songwriter but he is also the worse musician on the show doing the main character like daveed diggs and leslie odom for example are so much better than lin

        • ImSoOCD [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Oh 100%. There are some bootlegs with newer Hamilton’s that are way better. Leslie Odom is easily my favorite Burr though. And Daveed’s stuff in Clipping is 🤯

      • ImSoOCD [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        The songwriting is why I love Hamilton. There are so many Easter eggs alluding to hip hop classics or to other Broadway musicals. And the way they weave together ideas and make comparisons through different motifs recurring is gorgeous. The Room Where It Happens is my favorite song

        • redthebaron [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          the dueling commandments one is also a really funny reference to ten crack commandments from b.i.g