a bit off topic but i find it super amusing that conservatives in Muslim countries sort of accept trans-ness but reaaally hate the gays, while conservatives in the west sort of accept gay people but it's the trans they reaaaally hate. Even my asshole "atheism is worse than joining ISIS" dad supports trans rights but the hard no is gayness.
Iran has state subsidised gender reassignment surgery, Bengladesh has better legal protections for trans people than the US, Egypt is the "capitol" of gender surgery in the Arab world being the first to legalize it and practice it. You get a fatwa saying you really need it then it's Halal to do it. I was surprised to find some comedy films with trans protagonists that are super positive.
It's one of those times where conservatives in different cultures have different things to "conserve". You could hypothetically find a trans ISIS stan lol.
it's a really interesting topic. It's also interesting how misogyny plays a big role in which trans person gets accepted within Muslim cultures. In Tunisia (because it's where i'm from), it's common for courts to accept a FtM transition (therefore allowing them to change identities on documents and such) but *not * MtF. AMAB folk get the worst of it.
The logic sounds similar to how it's acceptable for women to dress and act masculine, because masculinity is implied to be "an improvement", but not for a man to act and dress fem. That would be a "downgrade". Also it's expected you'll fit right back into the gender binary/roles afterwards anyway and let society forget about it? like quietly pass and we stop hearing about this whole trans business.
There's a medicalist element to "accepting" transness, because if it's an illness it means it's something you could "cure "and work with Islamically, but that element is absent with homosexuality.
a bit off topic but i find it super amusing that conservatives in Muslim countries sort of accept trans-ness but reaaally hate the gays, while conservatives in the west sort of accept gay people but it's the trans they reaaaally hate. Even my asshole "atheism is worse than joining ISIS" dad supports trans rights but the hard no is gayness.
Iran has state subsidised gender reassignment surgery, Bengladesh has better legal protections for trans people than the US, Egypt is the "capitol" of gender surgery in the Arab world being the first to legalize it and practice it. You get a fatwa saying you really need it then it's Halal to do it. I was surprised to find some comedy films with trans protagonists that are super positive.
It's one of those times where conservatives in different cultures have different things to "conserve". You could hypothetically find a trans ISIS stan lol.
I had no idea
I knew about Iran but the rest is news to me, trans ISIS stan sounds like an interesting person.
it's a really interesting topic. It's also interesting how misogyny plays a big role in which trans person gets accepted within Muslim cultures. In Tunisia (because it's where i'm from), it's common for courts to accept a FtM transition (therefore allowing them to change identities on documents and such) but *not * MtF. AMAB folk get the worst of it.
The logic sounds similar to how it's acceptable for women to dress and act masculine, because masculinity is implied to be "an improvement", but not for a man to act and dress fem. That would be a "downgrade". Also it's expected you'll fit right back into the gender binary/roles afterwards anyway and let society forget about it? like quietly pass and we stop hearing about this whole trans business.
There's a medicalist element to "accepting" transness, because if it's an illness it means it's something you could "cure "and work with Islamically, but that element is absent with homosexuality.