I was all into electoralism up until the 1-2 punch of Corbyn and Bernie getting screwed (and just straight up losing) within the span of 2 months. From there I thought electoralism still had it's place but was thinking more about how we'll never get to "vote" for socialism, and started leaning towards being an ML. And then recently, I'm just really down on the hope for any sort of internal change within the imperial core. I think change is going to have to be forced upon the global north by the global south. And even though Iive in the US, I just feel more and more disconnected from this place. I find I'm way more interested in what's going on in places like Cuba, China, Good Korea, Peru, Bolivia, India, etc. I find myself not even really caring about US politics except for when it comes to issues of foreign policy.

And in my observation, it feels like a lot of comrades here seem to be following this trajectory.

Of course as I move along this path, I still don't seem to have a really good feel on what I'm supposed to do, you know?

  • poopoobanana [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    There is no future in which the left succeeds for good in which workers of the most industrialized countries are asleep.

    But which are the industrialized countries now? America has moved from industrial capitalism to financial capitalism.

    • whygodwhy [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      But which are the industrialized countries now?

      The same countries which were industrialized 50 years ago, now adding China, SK, India etc to the mix. Organizing workers doesnt mean only factory and farm workers.

      Industrial capitalism vs financial capitalism is a non-scientific distinction. It's a common complaint from the petit-bourgs and even fascists that "real productive" capitalism is being replaced by "unproductive parasitic" financial capitalism. It is objectively false, first world countries have massive industries, they are just automated more and employ less.

      • poopoobanana [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I mean, industrial vs financial is a distinction even some marxist economists (i.e. Michael Hudson) make. Not that industry is no longer here, but that growth is in the "financial" sector instead of the real world. I just meant to say that (arguably) the most important industrial country is already socialist.