I'll start. Fahrenheit is the superior temperature system for weather reporting. We should use metric for literally everything else, even Celsius for cooking, but I'll be dead in the cold ground before I abandon a system in which you actually get to experience both 0 degrees and 100 degrees. Freezing being 32 instead of 0 is literally the only downside, and it's not a hard number to remember. I'm prepared to die on this hill in the comments.

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    Stick your hand in a boiling pot of water and you get to experience 100 degrees Celsius as well. Nonsense argument.

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        What you mean is nonsensical. What is the advantage for the temperature of the weather to always be confined to between 0 and 100, which isn't even the case?

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          It's more intuitive. Temperatures are also spread out along a longer scale, so each group of ten (the 60s, the 80s, etc) has a distinct feel.

          Downvoting isn't an argument.

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            the only people i've ever heard say that fahrenheit is more intuitive are yanks or ancient english

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              I'm sure being raised with it influences my perspective. But can you think of a single downside besides "hurr 0 isn't freezing?"

              I'm not trying to tell you to switch to F, I'm just saying that I refuse to switch to C. Give me meters and kilos, fuck Celsius.

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                using the same temperature scale for weather and cooking/sciency shit gives me a better idea of how hot shit is i guess

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                  I'd argue no one really has an intuitive sense of temperatures that are extreme enough to kill you, no matter what scale you're using

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                    I don't know why you're stuck on the intuitive thing, the only reason it's intuitive to you is because you grew up with it

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                      I grew up with Celsius, but have lived around people who use Fahrenheit for most of my life. Fahrenheit still makes no sense to me. Inches and pounds I'm used to (though hate their irregularity). But the idea that Fahrenheit is more intuitive is 100% because you grew up using it.

                      Celsius: 30+ = hot as hell, want AC, high 20s = hot summer weather, want fan, mid 20s = warm summer weather, comfy unless you do physical labor/exercise, low 20s = cool summer weather, consider socks, 15-20 = long pants/long sleeves, blanket, 10 = jacket/sweatshirt, around 0 = hat and gloves, thick blanket, -10 = add extra layers, scarf/handkerchief, -20 = cold as fuck, minimize time out, -30 = you can feel the frost on your face when you're out, you'll be cold unless you wear special gear.

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                        I grew up with Celsius, but have lived around people who use Fahrenheit for most of my life. Fahrenheit still makes no sense to me. Inches and pounds I’m used to (though hate their irregularity). But the idea that Fahrenheit is more intuitive is 100% because you grew up using it.

                        agree whole heartedly

                        mid 20s = warm summer weather, comfy unless you do physical labor/exercise

                        comfy
                        mid 20s

                        LUNACY

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                          I admit the feel of different temperatures is very different depending on your climate and body type. (I also personally enjoy being able to suffer through extreme temperatures without complaining.)

                          The point is that people who use Celsius can also categorize it into intuitive chunks in their minds.

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                            for me, i love the cold and would happily live in the arctic circle if I could get good internet, but i hate the heat with a passion, anything over ~10 makes me uncomfortable
                            you would think i might be a chunky boy, but nope

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                      I'm sure that influences my perspective. But can you at least see from that perspective why it would be attractive to keep Fahrenheit instead of switching to Celsius?

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                          Good luck getting Americans to use Celsius lol. We can't even adopt the objectively superior meters and kilograms

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                            my measurement brain is a mess lol

                            I think of distance in both miles and kilometres
                            but think of speed in miles per hour unless it's very fast, then it's metres per second

                            I think of length in both centimetres and inches
                            but height in only feet and inches

                            I think of weight of people in stone
                            but weight of literally everything else in metric

                            I think of liquid volume in purely metric
                            except fuel efficiency I think of in miles/gallon

                            England is fun

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            so each group of ten (the 60s, the 80s, etc) has a distinct feel.

            So what you are saying is, it has 10 times too much precision for the task at hand.

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              No one can feel the difference between two individual degrees Celsius, much less Fahrenheit. The sheer precision isn't the point, it's the spread of the scale.

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                I would actually say that a degree Celsius is actually a quite nice measure for "perceptibly different".

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                  I'll give you that. Congrats, you've found a single upside to Celsius that isn't "freezing is 0."

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                      You assert that none of the points I brought up are valid, I could easily do the same. I don't see the point in arguing all day. I don't want to make any Celsius-users switch to Fahrenheit, I'm just explaining why keeping Fahrenheit is attractive to those who already use it.

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                        I’m just explaining why keeping Fahrenheit is attractive to those who already use it.

                        You have provided ample evidence that the only reason for that is that you are used to it. That is what this insistence on it being "more intuitive" comes from, you know. Everyone in this thread is trying to get you to understand this, but you are just too stubborn. You're just like a Christian who just happens to think the religion he was born into and taught since childhood, also happens to be the objectively correct one.

                        Sure, keep your dumb measurement system. But don't pretend you are "just explaining why keeping Fahrenheit is attractive to those who already use it". The thesis of your post is that it is the superior unit for weather reporting. And it's just not, in any way.

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                            Lol, that isn't even right. Don't get so butthurt over losing an argument you started.

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                              Nice edit. I'm definitely the one taking this too seriously.

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                                  You're not British, I got something wrong. Who never has? The aggressively-superior, insulting asshole attitude point still stands.

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                                    what is this? relax dude. Log off, and calm down for a while

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                              edit, removed

                              Didn't go back far enough I guess. Saw they made a comment about Corbyn and assumed British

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                                maybe you should stop pathologizing nationalities, because an American raging about being proven wrong that their way of doing things is better won't come away great from that discussion either

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                                  Yeah, that was pretty dumb of me. I'm sorry for doing that.

                                  I was very annoyed by your aggressive superior attitude. It came off chauvinistic. I shouldn't have ascribed that to a nationality. Condescending assholes come from all countries

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                                    Lol, you're just throwing out straight insults now because you lost an argument about units of temperature.

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                                      I'm insulting you because you're an asshole. When it comes to what system is more intuitive or better for weather reporting, it's really just opinion vs opinion. There isn't much winning or losing to be done.

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                                        But... You started the argument. You said one was more intuitive. You said one was superior.

                                        You know what. You're on tilt. I'm going to leave you be.

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                                          It's an unpopular opinion thread. Why don't you go out on a limb and post your own unpopular opinion to get torn to shreds over?

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                                            You weren't ripped shreds. You were refuted and lightly mocked when you couldn't accept it.

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                                              Yeah, I exaggerated for effect. What I mean is, starting arguments is the whole point of this thread.