With my nuanced take on why capes bad, I rise above both sides :grill:

  • CoconutOctopus [it/its]
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    3 years ago

    To be honest, we need a Poison Ivy film where she does ecoterrorism, and this is portrayed as a good thing. And a trend in cape media to recognize that anyone doing anything good is defined as a villain.

    • happybadger [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Agreed. I hold Joker up because it's all four aspects of Marx's theory of alienation expressed through a vulnerable person in a neoliberal society that thrives on the spectacle of punishing the alienated. What happens is the obvious result of that contradiction. Even if it wasn't written by or for Marxists, there's a tremendous amount of agitation value there in asking how societal failures produce the monsters that attack us. The superhero side of it is forgettable enough that there wasn't one in that film and it didn't feel missing.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      3 years ago

      Yes pls, and bring in Harley Quinn and let Cathy Yan direct it again

        • crime [she/her, any]
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          3 years ago

          Yesssss, especially with the "run, piggies!"

          Also how Cass's apartment building number was 1312 lmao I love being dogwhistled to

    • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Set it in the 1980s, make it feel like the very worst of LA smog with the worst of Pittsburg water pollution. Have the climax be evocative of the Cuyahoga River Fire where a river literally burst into flames from water pollution as a backdrop, to really drive home that Ivy isn't wrong.

      Her origin story is born entirely of empathetic pain and anger. It's a pity most writers suck at drawing that out.