You got banned as I was reading but what does overpopulation even mean? What's the baseline? How do you calculate what population we're supposed to have? Overpopulated compared to what? What is it based on? Okay so we produce this much food and have this many homes and this many hospitals. So all that can support this many people. Therefore we're overpopulated if we're above that number? How does that make sense? We know how and why everything in our society is produced, for profit. So basing how many people there are supposed to be off that seems weird. Density? Well we know our cities are planned around cars not people so that's no help.
If the answer is some modified ecological model, then what's the methodology there? Numbers don't gain more meaning just because someone with a PhD adds them up. What else on earth has a comparable (in a non spherical-cows way) way of life as us? We can literally just choose not to let people starve. We're not following some kind of predator-prey model of population here.
Overpopulation is a thing in biology for when a given animal population is too great for a specific environments carrying capacity. Thing is that this is a theoretical thing that is based on animal behavior and the environment being held static. Now this can be a thing for more simple organisms, but humans can both adapt their behavior as well as their environment so it really doesnt apply. Also the concept of overpopulation in this sense is also dubious because it is usually applied in cases where an environment has been destabilized some way to remove natural checks on population which can lead to rapid abnormal growth and then crashes (See Link below). So yeah overpopulation is a thing best left for theoretical models and not applied to questions on how we want to structure our society.
You got banned as I was reading but what does overpopulation even mean? What's the baseline? How do you calculate what population we're supposed to have? Overpopulated compared to what? What is it based on? Okay so we produce this much food and have this many homes and this many hospitals. So all that can support this many people. Therefore we're overpopulated if we're above that number? How does that make sense? We know how and why everything in our society is produced, for profit. So basing how many people there are supposed to be off that seems weird. Density? Well we know our cities are planned around cars not people so that's no help.
If the answer is some modified ecological model, then what's the methodology there? Numbers don't gain more meaning just because someone with a PhD adds them up. What else on earth has a comparable (in a non spherical-cows way) way of life as us? We can literally just choose not to let people starve. We're not following some kind of predator-prey model of population here.
Overpopulation is a thing in biology for when a given animal population is too great for a specific environments carrying capacity. Thing is that this is a theoretical thing that is based on animal behavior and the environment being held static. Now this can be a thing for more simple organisms, but humans can both adapt their behavior as well as their environment so it really doesnt apply. Also the concept of overpopulation in this sense is also dubious because it is usually applied in cases where an environment has been destabilized some way to remove natural checks on population which can lead to rapid abnormal growth and then crashes (See Link below). So yeah overpopulation is a thing best left for theoretical models and not applied to questions on how we want to structure our society.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Matthew_Island
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