So, I fully support trans people competing with cisgender people in sport. I also think there's loads of sports where you could gender desegregate it - basically all the sports that don't rely on strength and size.
So I said that bit, but then I also said that if you desegregated sports like swimming, football, rugby, etc etc, then you would never see a woman in a top team or on the podium at the Olympics ever again. Is that not factual? Even Ledecky, who is a ridiculously good swimmer, would not even make the men's swimming final at the Olympics.
I think you could desegregate sports at lower levels too - I've seen it done and experienced it. I was in a middle tier team in cricket with a bunch of dinguses, and the sometimes Women's A Team players would join our matches. They were as capable or better than the blokes most of the time. However, these women went on to play internationally, on TV, picking up contracts and stuff by playing against other women. If it was desegregated she'd be playing with shmucks like me who never even really liked cricket.
Am I wrong?
from your premises it follows
however professionalised super competitive sport is a social ill. sport ought to be local, low-stakes and as accessible as possible for everyone---that includes not segregating it by gender
Don't you think some of the fun is in the competitive nature. I mean, I used to willingly drop to lower teams because the atmosphere was more relaxed and fun, but if the team has been selected randomly and not for competitive then you're just gonna get the big monster kids dunking on the weaker ones. So then you've gotta sort it by ability, which takes us back to square one.
admittedly its a diffuse cultural attitude we want to create more than a specific rules regime :shrug-outta-hecks:
yeah, i engage in sports utopianism, and i think thats okay.
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